Gam Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Guys, What if civilians could be armed during terror missions or missions in populated areas? There is an alien invasion in your town. You panic, pull out grandad's double barrel rifle and shoot at anything that gets too close to your house. Including soldiers, local forces and other civilians. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 There will be shotgun totting farmers on the farm maps but that's as far as armed civilians will go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khall Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 And the armed arctic researchers (I think that's what they are) if that counts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 And the armed arctic researchers (I think that's what they are) if that counts Haven't heard of this. Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khall Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 On Arctic tileset: Armed variant Civilian variant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Oh, asset spoilerage. I try to stay away from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzz1010 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) asset spoilerage They are already in game, at least red ones. Did you never got arctic crashes? Edited November 13, 2012 by zzz1010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khall Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) Well both are already in the alpha, though you can only catch glimpses of the civilian (spectres not set up properly), so it's not really that big of a spoiler. Guys, What if civilians could be armed during terror missions or missions in populated areas? There is an alien invasion in your town. You panic, pull out grandad's double barrel rifle and shoot at anything that gets too close to your house. Including soldiers, local forces and other civilians. Thoughts? It would mean a lot of work (a disadvantage of the system used, they can't just add a weapon to a model) creating the sprites for what is essentially weaker versions of the current NPC soldiers. I would have prefered using that much time to make something that adds more to the game. Edited November 13, 2012 by Khall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 They are already in game, at least red ones. Never got arctic crashes? No, I'm mostly staying away from the early builds. Will wait for release before playing so I only see what gets posted on the forum but I try not to spoil myself too much. More or less everything will get "spoiled" by the end of the beta so I might have to make myself scarce sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Guys,What if civilians could be armed during terror missions or missions in populated areas? There is an alien invasion in your town. You panic, pull out grandad's double barrel rifle and shoot at anything that gets too close to your house. Including soldiers, local forces and other civilians. Thoughts? too Americanized that everyone has a weapon. There should be unarmed civvies period. farmers having weapons makes sense but that everyone has weapons doesn't make much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 the thought of every civilian getting to go through shooting at aliens every turn ... yikes! Still , I could time each alien turn with chores like shopping or making coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xcom Veteran Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Good idea. But only 1/100 should have pistol or knife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazz Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 (edited) too Americanized that everyone has a weapon. There should be unarmed civvies period. farmers having weapons makes sense but that everyone has weapons doesn't make much sense. LOL! American farmers, you mean. =P The rest of the world isn't all a hostile jungle like America. =P Now, if the aliens ever try a landing in Afghanistan, they'd better stay close to their ship. Ghengis Khan was probably closest to permanent victory in Afghanistan - because he simply murdered everyone who lived there. No army has since come close to "winning" a war of conquest there. Edited November 13, 2012 by Gazz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raakku Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Why not broad hatted, high heeled 70's pimps with canes? They could even give plus points if shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashMan Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 too Americanized that everyone has a weapon. There should be unarmed civvies period. farmers having weapons makes sense but that everyone has weapons doesn't make much sense. In normal circumstances? Yes. But if the aliens invaded? Every gun shop would be out of stock. Heck, if I was the president I would hand out weapons on every street corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 LOL! American farmers, you mean. =PThe rest of the world isn't all a hostile jungle like America. =P actually no, I meant British farmers. Last time it was brought up if farmers had access to guns I was informed that in Britain farmers having guns is quite common. I think that is somewhat true for Swedish farmers too. Or at least for the hunters living in middle and north parts of Sweden. Are we both complaining about making the world look too much like America? Do both of us think that is a bad thing? you seem to act as if I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 (edited) too Americanized that everyone has a weapon.Well, maybe if a UFO lands in the US they should encounter a LOT more armed citizens. There are a lot of places in the world where the population is heavily armed. Some places more so than the US. Since the aliens can be killed by gunfire it wouldn't be a lot of fun if the citizens slaughtered them before the Xenonauts arrived on scene, so I think we can skip that realism just to make things more interesting. There are some places in the US and Middle East where the "Terror Mission" would be terror for the aliens not the citizens. I'm sure someone can mod the percentage of armed citizens much higher (hopefully it's moddable) if they want it. Edited November 14, 2012 by StellarRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radister Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 actually no, I meant British farmers. Last time it was brought up if farmers had access to guns I was informed that in Britain farmers having guns is quite common. I think that is somewhat true for Swedish farmers too. Or at least for the hunters living in middle and north parts of Sweden. Thats right, our citys are void of guns but our country side is full of them. But yeah, if civs have gun can't see it adding any fun to the game. if i knew they could fight for themselfs i wouldn't be in a rush to save them. (Tho currently i don't rush cause alien aim is so bad i can waltz across the map slowly and still save the civs that are surrounded in burn out sqaures) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzz1010 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Need to arm them with pans (and farmers with pitchforks), then we will have running around civilians(sometimes they will be burning) with pans, shooting in sky soldiers and out team who trying to shoot in aliens but hit each other. Need also to add mad cows, they will push rolling in place aliens. Sound like fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidfoam Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 In normal circumstances? Yes.But if the aliens invaded? Every gun shop would be out of stock. Heck, if I was the president I would hand out weapons on every street corner. Too Americanized also. "Gun shops out of stock" ) In most countries i have been to gun shops isn't even a thing to consider. Since they don't exist. And if they do, they sell parts of guns or hunting gear. I agree with Gorlom. Farmers should be armed. If not to protect their animals from foxes and such, they might be hunters. But otherwise i feel there are too much weapons already on civies. The odd pistol armed one is fine. Are there any maps in Xenonauts were there are no civilians? That would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Are there any maps in Xenonauts were there are no civilians? That would be nice. I think only base assault and defense missions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzz1010 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Suggestion\Feature request - need to add to "mission type props"(it's control how many there will be civilians and soldiers on mission) possibility to add not only tileset but map entities to make possible define how many there will be frendlies for specific map - then we can have havy populated maps or specific maps where we willl be alone, maps where will be more soldiers (like this desert army base) or maps where will be more civillians. And even better to store this in a map file and define in the editor("mission type props" will control frendlies equipment and will be default settings if for map not specified) - this will be more handy and user maps frendly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorphin Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 the civilians with guns are reeplaced with local military forces the only ones that get close to a civilian with a weapon are the police officers verry early on and some farmers armed with shotungs and the artic researchers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Are there any maps in Xenonauts were there are no civilians? That would be nice. If you shoot them all, then there would be maps with no civilians, if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I'd like to see armed thothkinses and female thothkinses as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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