craftomega Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 (edited) What alien materials are used in construction of human equipment? How many of these do we need to keep? Is there a accessable research tree? What is a recommended base set up? (How many soldiers and fighters per base.) What is a recommended squad set up? Edited April 21, 2012 by craftomega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colcut Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Imo the numbers vary from person to person. especially if you use vehicles. and base setups will vary a little depending on if u have alot of bases (doubtful at 2 mil a pop). one of the great things about these ufo games is working out what alien technology i can use and what is rubbish. Imo there shouldnt be just one or two paths for any of these style of games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwolves Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Most of your questions come down to personal preference. I guess the main thing about base layout is knowing where aliens access the base, and that you must protect the command centre at all costs. As far as I know, they will access from hangars, and the starting base layout seems to back that up. For your other questions, i honestly don't know, and look forward to working it all out for myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Anything recovered from the battlefield that winds up in your stores should end up being used in construction, but right now only money is used for the manufacturing. That'll change before beta though. Yup, there is a research tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstormer Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Well to my knowledge some of those things we don't have full details on - for instance the whole tech tree, what other resources will be needed to manufacture things, etc. I saw a mention of about 80 things that could be researched but I only know of maybe 1/4th of that number right now. Maybe I missed a post somewhere.. I think all those questions will matter more in beta than now but if I encounter some good tips I'll pass them along. For instance early on until you start seeing alien land vehicles showing up I find rockets to be superfluous and pointless to have. I'll take a MG early on over a rocket launcher for instance. But later on you want more "dedicated" roles of anti-infantry and anti-vehicle guys, scouts will be those with high APs, your snipers those with really high accuracy stats, etc etc. Base set up is a whole separate beast as I don't think base attacks are in yet (I haven't run into any at any rate) so it's harder to test and try out right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoMask Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 What aliens will be in the game? How many different types? Seriously, am I only one whose first question about game with aliens is that what aliens there are? .-. There doesn't seem to be any threads about alien types, nor it is asked in FAQs or answered on site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) 8 main types and 5 "assisting" types. Apparantly their names are already in the game files somewhere. It has come up sometimes during other discussions but I don't think it has a dedicated thread. Searching for "scuttler" should probably show some of the posts. Edited April 24, 2012 by Gorlom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoMask Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Do you know if there exists any info about them? Or are developers withholding info as it would be spoilers? Who I can ask about artistic choices anyway? I'm kind of curious at why it seems like reptile aliens have hair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Hair? ... could you post a screenshot? Could be really thin spikes perhaps? I think you will have to ask Chris about artistic choices. He isn't the artist, but the project lead and designer(?). The artist doesn't post on the forum (as far as I know. I think Ive only seen Chris, Matthew, the sound guy and the animator post here.) I think there might be some info about them but I'd prefere not getting as much since I consider it spoilers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoMask Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Well, I might be wrong because I haven't seen concept art, but sprite does look like it has red hair. Though if its red spines instead its still odd choice since red and green contrast and I don't know any reptile with spines that are completely different in color from rest of body .-. I'm just kind of curious about it. Well, so if I asked from Chris or other developers, I could get info? Or is it something that we aren't told in case it leaks to people who don't want spoilers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 I'm personally hopeing for the latter =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoMask Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Hey, I wouldn't spoil the fun for other people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Looks to me more like a bony ridge or a crest. Plenty of animals have contrasting coloured displays for attracting mates. I am sure there is some valid reason an alien species could have something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Maybe its his time of the month and there is where he bleeds from? HAH try to get that image out of your head! =P PS: Doesnt that collar lizard that killed the fat guy in Jurrasic park have red on the collar thingy while the rest of him is greenish? Is red details with green skin such a wierd combo? Edited April 24, 2012 by Gorlom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstormer Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Well of course we don't know of any that are like that (green and red) but these are aliens and therefore strange in a very real and art limitation freeing sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoMask Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Hey, I'm just wondering about it ;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Well of course we don't know of any that are like that (green and red) but these are aliens and therefore strange in a very real and art limitation freeing sense This post made me do a few quick google image searches a turtle with red marks by its ears and lizzard with red throatsac plus frogs with red eyes the forementioned fictional jurassic park lizzard PS. Damnit I'm such an annoying knowitall =( PPS: a frog with blue and yellow contrasting colours Edited April 24, 2012 by Gorlom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 If they were common then they wouldn't be aliens. Maybe they just got annoyed with aliens being thought of as 'greys' and decided to spice it up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstormer Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Well I hope that you (XenoMask) weren't taking me seriously haha!! I'm just thinking that's how I reconcile anything that seems off with aliens in any game. It's weird just 'cause they are aliens is the most obvious answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoMask Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 @Gauddlike: This game DOES have greys apparently. @Gorlom: Yeah, but spines are... Okay, I don't know what material spines are made of, but they usually aren't red. Anyway, I'm not complaining that I find it "unrealistic", I'm just wondering about design choice, why did they choose to do that decision? @Hellstormer: Yeaaaaah, that reminds me of times I asked Elder Scroll fans "Argonians are lizard people. So why the frick female ones have breasts?" and they just answered "Its fictional fantasy race." ;P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 (edited) Do you know if there exists any info about them? Or are developers withholding info as it would be spoilers? Well, it's supposed to be a bit of a surprise. Chris doesn't want to spill all the beans or even most of 'em before release. Here's some Andron info I found on an Italian forum. It's from an old news post of Chris' on the old forum: http://gaming.ngi.it/showpost.php?p=13383704&postcount=86 Found info on Sebillians as well: http://gaming.ngi.it/showpost.php?p=13575102&postcount=101 Edited April 25, 2012 by Jean-Luc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Sebillians looked at the greys and thought they looked too boring so they all dyed their scalp protrusions red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceVamp Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 What alien materials are used in construction of human equipment?How many of these do we need to keep? Is there a accessable research tree? What is a recommended base set up? (How many soldiers and fighters per base.) What is a recommended squad set up? I did a super fast general gameplay thing on the wiki. It answers some questions and should get new players an idea of what the hell is going on. Unless they are catastrophically mentally handicapped. Though what is obvious to some isn't always the same to others. I hope it'll be fleshed out a bit more. It's more of a placeholder really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Sebillians looked at the greys and thought they looked too boring so they all dyed their scalp protrusions red. War paint you say? Do they paint with the blood of their enemies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 General question: How does one turn on Debug mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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