MrPyro Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I bet it's the same. The musician gets 15%, right? You think it's that high? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Is Aleksi compareing the musician with desura? or compareing Universal Music and Warner with Desura? I got the impressions that it was the latter? Me and MrPyro are completly missing Jean-Lucs joke, aren't we? DOH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksi Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Is Aleksi compareing the musician with desura? or compareing Universal Music and Warner with Desura? I got the impressions that it was the latter? Well, what i was trying to explain breivly, is that 15% for a community, downloadable game via a client application, game cd key system, update functionality, etc... is really fair from my point of view. I was comparing this with the music business (which i know) and that is very unfair. Especially today. I wouldn't even dare of putting here an experience i had with Universal. But, if we look at Apple with iTunes, its about a 30% commission if i'm not mistaken. And after all the expenses you have aside from that (tax, etc), i can loose quite a bit. Desura seems pretty Indie friendly with its 15%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidsoft Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 They also handle the actual sales as far as I know, that is also a big part of it, they need support for transactions as well as have purchasing options etc. etc... I believe most other places (steam for example) take something like 30% although there's not much solid info about it since they kind of want it to be hush-hush. Considering how much they do provide it's definitely not a bad deal at all as it offloads A LOT of work from the developer. And let's not get started on how little the developer gets from retail sales, that's an abysmally small piece compared to digital sales! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rameus76 Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 What has KS's inability to process accounts from non-US citizens got to do with "risk"? It's like "I can't fit my head between these metal bars but I'm gonna take a risk and just do it anyway". Though they may be a work around in this case, we'll see. It is because of Kickstarter's inability to to this that there are some forum posters that are willing to be their proxy or help create a U.S based "company". I have no idea if this is legal but if it is then it is a risk because there are many things that can go wrong if they do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 It is because of Kickstarter's inability to to this that there are some forum posters that are willing to be their proxy or help create a U.S based "company". I have no idea if this is legal but if it is then it is a risk because there are many things that can go wrong if they do it. It is not a risk worth takeing while there are other options available. In some respects you lose even if you win with that gamble. If people find out their money goes through the bankaccount of an unaffiliated person they aren't likely to contribute and you suffer alot of negative publicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Chris already said he was going to try the "fake company" thing because it would allow him to keep control of the money. I'm not really sure how that works or what risks there are (if any) but it's not illegal afaik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I think he's still refereing to haveing someone else be in control of the bank account. or at least that s what I assumed when I wrote that last post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EzysKepezYs Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 To start with, hello, everyone, just registered to tell you how much I want this project to succeed. By the looks of it, you guys, are the only ones doing justice to X-com like games and I love you for it. Now, from what I can gather, your kickstarter will not happen on kickstarter.com because you need a trustworthy american citizen with a secure bank account so he does not run away with your money. Right? Or there's more to it? If it is just that, then let us come up with the solution. Back at the EuroGamer Expo 2011 one of your employees did an interview showing of your game with John "TotalBiscuit" Bain. Now, why I am talking about him? Because he has an associate and a colleague named Jesse Cox - an american voice actor and an honest gamer who made video games his source of living. I have been watching content on his youtube channel OMFGcata, all TGS podcasts with TotalBiscuit, Dodger and Jesse, and I can safely tell that he is one genuinely simple, honest and trustworthy person. CD Projekt RED (the developers of The Witcher series) invited Jesse to the press conference, that took place just about a week ago, to give some live commentary about the game during the presentation just because they liked Jesse's Witcher 2 playthrough. In my opinion, Jesse Cox would be more than willing to help you out here, hell, you could even get away with hiring him for a month or two if you need to, he is a voice actor after all and has worked in the field. All in all, I hope this kickstarter takes off and best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoxNoctum Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Ya I really hope you guys try to get on kick starter proper for this. Hire an American to do some voice acting for the game (or whatever) if you need to. Right now getting on KS could get you an enormous amount of money if the current success stories on there are anything to go by. Many projects on there have far outstripped their goals. Indiegogo just isn't anywhere as well known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assoonasitis Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I am super-amped for this, Chris, and would like to put myself down for the $200.00 ASAP. Seriously. I'd love to give you $5000.00 really, but can ill afford it. So... Yeah, let's make this happen so that I can give you what little spending money I've saved over the year, plus some money that I don't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spencer Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 I hope everything goes well with this. Can't wait for the demo to come out in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwm1800 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I really hope this goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silichna Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Any news on this at the moment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Kicktarter won't start untill Chris is done working out the bugs in the version 10 demo so he can send it out to press I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 Press build has already gone out, Kickstarter is due next week. Further details to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyDylan Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Whoooot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semisemite Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Just out of curiosity, why can't you just 'hire' someone in the United States? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 Just out of curiosity, why can't you just 'hire' someone in the United States? Because it's a risk haveing all that money go through someone elses bankaccount. Not only is it possible that it affects wether donors want to give, but I think Chris is also uncomfortable with the prossibilitie that whoever has the bank account just takes the money and leaves. It has a bit of a "Nigeria letter" quality to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted May 5, 2012 Share Posted May 5, 2012 (edited) The US thing has been resolved as mentioned in few of the updates so the game's gonna be on the "real" Kickstarter. Edited May 5, 2012 by Jean-Luc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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