RiceMuncher Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Hi there guys, excited to finally join your forum as a KickStarter backer + long-time stalker. (Yes I was waiting for a Kickstart or beta before ordering) But anyways, I do vaguely recall that you guys were planning on implementing Homeworld style images to convey the story to us gamers? Is this still true? Would be so awesome if we had it and also images for completed research items Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 It was just for the intro and has never been confirmed nor mentioned in a long time. The Xenopedia will, of course, have its own images, it already does for some entries (or maybe all of them but some are placeholders, I'm not really sure ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 We looked at the Homeworld style intro and then I realised it wouldn't work for two reasons - firstly, the artist we were planning to use for it didn't have the availability we needed for it. Secondly, the amount of work that went into the Kickstarter video was insane so I think an actual cinematic would be far more effort. That's probably work I should be putting into getting the game finished instead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceMuncher Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 So there's not going to be an intro or outro of any kind? =( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 on the plus side, you'll get a finished game more quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibidibop Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Make cut scenes in-engine, with SCUMM style text above characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceMuncher Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 Well it would be just a sadly missed opportunity. I mean what, 15years since the original XCOM/EU and the presentation of the story does not receive any updates? Not to mention that Xenonauts has an awesome setting during the Cold War! Even like Dragon Age ending scenes (plain text and a still image) would be AWESOME I must ask though, how is the story in Xenonauts going to be presented? Just blobs of text as research is completed and a MISSION COMPLETE screen at the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeyfumbler Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I really think that we need a little bit of story included in the game, even if it is just text over still images. There needs to be some kind of scene setting at the beginning of the game, and then occasional updates throughout the course (to accompany big research milestones) followed by a conclusion at the end of the game (rather than just 'You Won'). Obviously it's never going to match XCom EU, but just being dropped straight into the Geoscape to position your first base with no explanation or background is very jarring, in my opinion anyway. I feel I need some kind of setting and back story to feel involved with the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceMuncher Posted November 1, 2012 Author Share Posted November 1, 2012 I really think that we need a little bit of story included in the game, even if it is just text over still images. There needs to be some kind of scene setting at the beginning of the game, and then occasional updates throughout the course (to accompany big research milestones) followed by a conclusion at the end of the game (rather than just 'You Won').Obviously it's never going to match XCom EU, but just being dropped straight into the Geoscape to position your first base with no explanation or background is very jarring, in my opinion anyway. I feel I need some kind of setting and back story to feel involved with the whole thing. Donkey makes a good point. Though Xcom EU has made the story more "approachable" via cutscenes etc, Xenonauts must be on par with XCOM still images right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raziel1981 Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 I also agree with Donkey the game as is looks very good, but it needs some kind of introduction and not just "put a base and start doing stuff..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunatime Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 i think you need some kind of introduction to not much just. something like a high ranking guy gets a phone call saying there are unknowns incoming, and he says launch the fighters and a little cut scene of fighters vs ufo chase the ufo wins and then the high ranking guy gets a phone call form the Xenonauts saying we are your only hope. and then it could cut to the game so you get the feeling that your the only one who can turn the tide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 What about a 1950s Iceland incident intro. A pic of a crashed ship, followed up by one of the doomed ground assault, with a final one showing the Iceland detonation... then one showing them in orbit as per the alien invasion screen. that would show the air and ground superiority, the ineffectiveness of local forces, the dismal return in fighting one of them and then a screen showing some of the 3000 to prettyy much fill you in on your chances. Lots of action there too to grab folk's attentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Didn't UFO Extraterrestrials do that whole losing airbattle as intro already? Personally I'm not sure I'd find a cutscene that inspiring. (I'd just end up expecting more cutscenes in the game) A series of stills and text could probably be used to the same effect and tell even more story. You'd probably should tie back to the Iceland incident somehow somewhere.... How is that part going to be presented btw? IS that the intro? Edit: Thothkins sneakily posted a good point when I wasn't looking Edited November 1, 2012 by Gorlom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 No, it wasn't inspiring when I was thinking about it either It was definitely a "look at the huge odds we're facing" sort of thing. I can't remember the opening for UFO ET. Or the end for that matter Wasn't it some sort of encounter in space? You could always go with:- Screen of scientist detecting approaching armada Screen of 3000 alien ships appearing in orbit Screen of first UFO shot down by Xenonauts That's a touch more uplifting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceMuncher Posted November 2, 2012 Author Share Posted November 2, 2012 Didn't UFO Extraterrestrials do that whole losing airbattle as intro already? Personally I'm not sure I'd find a cutscene that inspiring. (I'd just end up expecting more cutscenes in the game) A series of stills and text could probably be used to the same effect and tell even more story. You'd probably should tie back to the Iceland incident somehow somewhere.... How is that part going to be presented btw? IS that the intro? That is what Im trying to say. XCOM had still images with text. Surely we can't be missing this in the final product? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I guess it all comes down to what's in the kitty for it. Put it another way, I'd rather have more functionality in the game than an intro and final little movie. As ricemuncher says though, some static images with text you would have thought would be in the realms of possibility. Particularly as it's quite a bit simpler than a Homeworld type thing as was originally hinted at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturius Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Ahh, if no Homeworld style intro can we at least have some big red blinking alert button with text "Unidentified Flying Object detected. Xenonauts response underway..." Yeah, XCOM still images with text would also be better than no intro at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 we had a thr5ead once where someone (Gorlom/Gauddlike?) posted that a game with a giant red button was seen as too confusing to at least a few gamers. Wouldn't want to startle them in the intro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Pancakes Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Speaking of story and exposition, whatever happened to that Xenonauts novel that was being written? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamkyon Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Speaking of story and exposition, whatever happened to that Xenonauts novel that was being written? Here's the latest from Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 yup, can't be too far away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Stephen Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 The novella is on the cusp of being here! It's taken a little bit of time, but that's somewhat intentional. Very much like Goldhawk's mindset with Xenonauts, I believe in taking my time to make sure something's right. XCD recently got reviewed by Chris, some last-minute tweaks are going in (I expect them to be finished within a week), and then it goes to beta. So what's "beta" for a book? Pretty much what it is for a video game. Some fans have been selected to read it and give me their input. It's all part of quality control. This novella can't just be good to me. It has to be acceptable to Chris, respectful of the source material, and enjoyable by the fan base. This is how you ensure something is done the right way and not just the way you think is best. But yes, we are very, very, very close. Beta for a book is a very fast process. Premium Preorders could be reading this by the end of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Pancakes Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Whooooooooo!!!! I can wait...I can wait... ...is it ready yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Whooooooooo!!!! I can wait...I can wait... ...is it ready yet? You sound like me when I'm about to eat pancakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Pancakes Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Perhaps, but improperly prepared pancakes can give you food poisoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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