Gauddlike Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The early access and full game will likely come as unlock keys for desura and whatever final release system is used. Unless by public build you meant the demo which should be freely available to anyone who is interested. The more people who can try it the more people who will buy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 It should kick off in about a week and a half. Hopefully we'll send out press builds this weekend and the Kickstarter will follow that Thursday / Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceVamp Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 It's strange, I can't wait for the Kickstarter to launch, but I'm feeling a bit anxious as well. What if the world doesn't love it like they should? Gah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyDylan Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 It's strange, I can't wait for the Kickstarter to launch, but I'm feeling a bit anxious as well. What if the world doesn't love it like they should? Gah! Impossibru. This game is brilliant, and I the fact that it's going to offer so much content up front (show actual gameplay rather than just an interview with the chap in charge). Will nett them a great deal of interest. Although to be safe, I'd prefer for chris to go for a lower amount (circa $150k or so) to be sure of success. I bet it'll get way more, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceVamp Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 True. I think he said somewhere that he was aiming for just $50k actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstormer Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Speaking of Kickstarter I know that many of us are involved in other forums and communities for various games around the internet. Most forums allow signatures that link to other sites so my question is... Could someone make some Xenonauts signature banners either with embedded links in them to the site here OR a special Xenonauts Kickstarter banner linking straight to the Kickstarter project? Then we could throw those on for a month on some of the other forums we all use and help get the word out that way too. What do you think? I don't have any art skills so it's beyond me to actually create sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 BobbyDylan how is 150k a lower ammount? =P That's an awful lot ofr a first game studio. It's questionable if people would donate if asked for that much. Sure Goldhawk can show off what they have done so far and we can visualize the end result rather easily, but the commonly set goal is 10-20k for a first game studio. It's only big names that can set above 100k imo. Pulling numbers out of the air I expect the biggest number Chris could set to be around 60-80k. With that said I don't think that is the maximum ammount of money he can get. But it's better to not overextend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I guess it's a low amount on average between the 6-7 digit amounts of the likes of Double Fine to something like FTL's 10k (even if it was 2000% funded). For example Grim Dawn which is quite new, indie and struggling has a goal of 280.000$ and it's also been in development for years so the money isn't just to start the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The New Romance Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Better aim low. People will find it much more sympathetic when a first-timer asks for comparably little money and is then swamped with people throwing their money at the screen, rather than some upstart demanding a 200,000 $ sum to just get an Alpha started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Plus the game is already going to be completed, regardless of the kickstarter. Asking for a smaller amount to help with polish in that situation makes way more sense than wanting a larger amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrathi Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I think Chris said he was thinking around $50k - which sounds like a good amount, since if you shoot low and get more money, that's a plus, whereas if you shoot high and come up with less, you get nothing. I think games like FTL have shown that people are willing to fund games in excess of the requested amount if they like the project and/or the rewards enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 Yes, we've decided to go for $50,000. Hopefully we'll raise more but it'd be really annoying to ask for $150,000 and "only" end up with $120,000 or something. I'd rather play it (relatively) safe. Hellstormer, yes, we probably could cook up some forum signature banners now you mention it. I'll put it on my to-do list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellstormer Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Hellstormer, yes, we probably could cook up some forum signature banners now you mention it. I'll put it on my to-do list. Awesome! looking forward to it - I'll put that thing on for every gaming forum I go to (which at this point is quite a few indeed...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterfield Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yes, we've decided to go for $50,000. Hopefully we'll raise more but it'd be really annoying to ask for $150,000 and "only" end up with $120,000 or something. I'd rather play it (relatively) safe.Hellstormer, yes, we probably could cook up some forum signature banners now you mention it. I'll put it on my to-do list. You'll made it, for sure. Look at "The Dead Linger", an (almost) unknown indie dev studio, at a very early stage of the development (pre-pre-alpha ?). Their ideas are good, artworks too, and the team seems solid. They asked for 60k$ and are atm beyond 120k$. You are new to the indie scene, but are doing a true "reload" of XCOM (which is considered by most as one of the best video game of all time). You have a solid build, that is showing a lot of the game (and is awesome - fanboy out), and already had some coverage from the press. There's no way you'll not make the 50k$. I've discovered Kickstarter 2 months ago, and I'm a huge fan of this way of funding. I'm happy to see Xenonauts onboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyDylan Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 BobbyDylan how is 150k a lower ammount? =P That's an awful lot ofr a first game studio. It's questionable if people would donate if asked for that much. Sure Goldhawk can show off what they have done so far and we can visualize the end result rather easily, but the commonly set goal is 10-20k for a first game studio. It's only big names that can set above 100k imo.Pulling numbers out of the air I expect the biggest number Chris could set to be around 60-80k. With that said I don't think that is the maximum ammount of money he can get. But it's better to not overextend. Yeah, you're right. I've only just discovered the Kickstarter phenominon (on the back of this, and word of a Nexus: The Jupiter Incident 2 romour) and seen the success of Double fine, Wastelands and such. So I guess $150 would be a great deal of money for a first time dev... remembering that Bioware started with $100k back in the day. Chris seems to have his head screwed on right, and would err on the side of caution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 I'm pretty convinced the Dead Linger is going to need a LOT more funds at some point, having looked at their stuff. They seem to have an incredibly ambitious design for the pricetag (compare that to the Pinkerton Road one where they want a minimum of $300k for what I think is going to be a point an click adventure). Plus their concept artist looks like he uses MS Paint That having been said, people told me I was being stupid when I first started out and it seems to have worked out pretty well with Xenonauts, so if they have enough will they should be able to find a way. I certainly hope they do for the sake of both the studio and the project backers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterfield Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 That having been said, people told me I was being stupid when I first started out and it seems to have worked out pretty well with Xenonauts, so if they have enough will they should be able to find a way. I certainly hope they do for the sake of both the studio and the project backers. I'm one of those, so yeah, I hope so. My point is, you are in a far better position than TDL, and they obtain more than the double amount you want. I guess that your Kickstarter will allow you to add some kick-ass features. Have you think about some rewards based on amount ( if the total amount is above 100k$, above 120k$, etc...) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Have you think about some rewards based on amount ( if the total amount is above 100k$, above 120k$, etc...)? There shall be boxed collector's editions and whosoever finds a golden hawk figurine in their limited edition collector's game box shall receive an exclusive tour of the Xenofactory where they shall behold many wonders such as the infamous drool stain deposited by Chris onto a pillow after passing out during a late night crunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 There shall be boxed collector's editions and whosoever finds a golden hawk figurine in their limited edition collector's game box shall receive an exclusive tour of the Xenofactory where they shall behold many wonders such as the infamous drool stain deposited by Chris onto a pillow after passing out during a late night crunch. Will there be any Xenonaut version of oompa lompas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Will there be any Xenonaut version of oompa lompas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 deposited by Chris Excuse me. I'm having my supper and really don't need to hear about Chris' deposits thank you very much. Donator rewards take a dark turn... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) Excuse me. I'm having my supper and really don't need to hear about Chris' deposits thank you very much. Oh I bet you do. You would just love to hear more wouldn't you? Gimme your phonenumber and we can discuss the theoretical drool into pillow deposists made by Chris at lenght, preferebly over your dinner. Edited April 26, 2012 by Gorlom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Guys, you're making this way more disgusting than I intended. Sometimes when people suddenly fall asleep as a result of being exhausted they drool a bit, that's all, it's perfectly innocent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Guys, you're making this way more disgusting than I intended. Sometimes when people suddenly fall asleep as a result of being exhausted they drool a bit, that's all, it's perfectly innocent. I know that I just wanted to mess with Tothkins since he seemed to be disgusted by something so... innocent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 we can discuss the theoretical drool into pillow deposists made by Chris at lenght, preferebly over your dinner. do you mean that we talk about the deposits over dinner or that we have the discussion over a dinner of Chris' deposits? ahhhh darn, lost my appetite again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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