WarStalkeR Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 A long time ago, in a gala... Ahem... When I played Xenonauts before, I remember workshop had seven categories as shown in this image: But now, there are only 4 categories: Soldier Weapons, Armour, Vehicles, Aircraft. So my question is: how do I add back rest of the categories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishguy117 Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 I don't know if thats even possible. Aircraft and vehicle weapons are no longer manufactured, they're automatically upgraded and exist in unlimited numbers. I don't even know what the xtraterrestrial tab is for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStalkeR Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 So basically... Xenonauts turned from hardcore game to casual ****? Thanks developers for ruining such epic game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinHann Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 You draw such general conclusions based on the fact you aren't forced to micromanage your aircraft and vehicle ammo production? The same aircraft and vehicles that are at best marginal to the core gameplay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStalkeR Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) You draw such general conclusions based on the fact you aren't forced to micromanage your aircraft and vehicle ammo production?Yeah. Because of such important hardcore parts, such as base micromanagement, which were in original X-COM, Xenonauts had the right to be called true X-COM successor, but now, after removing such feature from Xenonauts (which is inspired by X-COM) it feels as if X-COM's soul that lived inside Xenonauts is killed off. Edited June 21, 2014 by WarStalkeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinHann Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Fair enough, that's your opinion. I politely and firmly disagree. This kind of micromanagement would be a total deal breaker for me personally. In the same time if that's the only thing that would make the game a good or bad one for you it's highly unlikely you will enjoy many new titles. After all Xenonauts has merits on its own, it's not just another clone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStalkeR Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 (edited) After all Xenonauts has merits on its own, it's not just another clone.When I got game during development stages, it was already better then original. But now... It is not... With such changes toward casualty...Anyway, I will use legacy version in steam as starting point and it seems I will need to make mod to rewrite pretty everything to make it hardcore as it should have been... Without any self-upgradeable stuff for free... Edited June 21, 2014 by WarStalkeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinHann Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Seriously, is that the single factor you will judge the entire game on? Vehicle ammo production = better than the original, no vehicle ammo = it's terrible?! Hard to take that seriously, mate Give it some time, let emotions calm and reassess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 oh my. lol. I can get behind his complains if he calls the Firaxis PoS casual, but calling Xenonauts casual...bah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 WarStalkeR, automatic upgrades to aircraft missiles and aircraft weapons happened quite a while ago - any legacy version of Xenonauts buried in Steam will have auto upgrading of aircraft. How did you miss that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStalkeR Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 WarStalkeR, automatic upgrades to aircraft missiles and aircraft weapons happened quite a while ago - any legacy version of Xenonauts buried in Steam will have auto upgrading of aircraft. How did you miss that?Well, I've started with version 17, then I dropped it due the bugs, then I continued with version 19, then I dropped it again and then I decided to wait for final release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axisoflint Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 So what you're saying is you weren't willing to play with the bugs and provide feedback but now you want to complain because a feature you liked has been removed? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStalkeR Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 So what you're saying is you weren't willing to play with the bugs and provide feedback but now you want to complain because a feature you liked has been removed?And I have no right to do so? I think I do... What thoughts have passed through developers' heads, so they removed such important part of the game that were making Xenonauts true successor to first X-COM. IMO, industrial micromanagement was irreplaceable part of the first X-COM, which made it a truly hardcore classical game... And as I said, by removing it, is same like cutting the right leg from healthy human. But thanks to the modding capability, everything still can be fixed (probably). Shame I don't have access to the source code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silencer Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Industrial micromanagement in X-COM? Sir, are you serious? The part of "equipping" aircraft was click few buttons and you're done. You're complaining just for the sake of complaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinHann Posted June 21, 2014 Share Posted June 21, 2014 Don't feed the Warstalker, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStalkeR Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 Industrial micromanagement in X-COM? Sir, are you serious? The part of "equipping" aircraft was click few buttons and you're done. You're complaining just for the sake of complaining.And producing equipment? And gathering required materials from aliens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandywalken Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 (edited) So basically... Xenonauts turned from hardcore game to casual ****? Thanks developers for ruining such epic game... LMFAO! Congrats! You and those who behave like you are one of the biggest problems with games of this genre, and most niche genres! Edited June 22, 2014 by Dandywalken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 And producing equipment? And gathering required materials from aliens? Both still present for ground combat. Aircraft weapons auto upgrade because the devs found the focus of the game drifting away from ground combat. They wanted the air combat mini game to be a bit of a change of pace, not the part of the game that ate up the majority of your time and funds. The majority of the changes can be easily adjusted by using the xml files to tune it to whatever play style you want. Hopefully you will be able to come up with an interesting mod and share it with others who would enjoy it as much as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Blade Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Think that was an ´off´call, I liked having to upgrade my fighters as well as my troops. Though if the craft and vehicle weapon upgrades appear again in game, one would need to reduce time to the production of infantry arms as well, both in materials and time (or keep time and increase ufo salvage numbers). Mind you won´t loose sleep about it, but it would have been something nice to have as an ¨optional¨ or hell, higher difficulty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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