Progress Update & Indie of the Year!

[cyllan]

Jean-Luc


"Nice to see consumer conditioning pay off. "

come on !!!!! more data =more fun=more to see and do, do you want 2 chocolate donughts when you can have 50!!!!

not saying size=quality for a fact but more size equals more effort more to see and do, sorry the age of 512k games is over...... the age of tesselation and dx11 is coming......!!!!! ( soon i hope... )

[cyllan]

Jean-Luc


"It's an alpha (or is it considered beta now?) version with like 85% of content still missing."

are you sure?

i thought most of the game was done already? except AI , bugs and miscelaneous items.... i read the 2d artist job person was finished,

where is that 85% missing?

[Belmakor]

I thought indie games were supposed to be free from trolls ^

[cyllan]

I thought indie games were supposed to be free from trolls ^

excuse me?

[cyllan]

Still Alpha I believe Jean-Luc!



And yeah, I 'hate' it when developers actually take the time to optimise games, or make awesome games that can easily work on a laptop etc...

come on...... do you really want to play AAA+ games on a laptop? i rather have a big screen (mine is 2650* 1440 27") a killer graphics card and most settings to maximun, i look forward to the day when a game is 1 terabyte data and bug free, yes is a dream but most laptops cant run big games, how long are we going to be stuck with dx9? .

you can get a good gaming desktop for peanuts these days.

[anotherdevil]

for peanuts? Those must be some mutant big peanuts!

Gone are the days when people enjoyed games for the games I guess, rather than the memory chugging graphics that most of them feel they have to have.

I mean look at Valkeria Chronicles, one of my favourate games of all times, and yet that was not hyper realistic graphics at all! And the content in the story, from a small nation fighting an empire, to tones of racism. Sure it ran on the PS3, but I've seen many games in my time that are just as potent games, and that isn't because of the graphics

[Gorlom]

pixels > polygons!
fix the sory, atmosphere and gameplay first.
screw the graphics! as long as you can see whats what it doesnt need to be uber fancy. nice graphics is nice but not at the cost of all the other aspects of the game.

(the monkey island series is a good example. the 2D versions were awesome. the fourth game was horrible BECAUSE of the 3D. the MI episodes worked but i missed the 2D. I do believe it would have been better in 2D)

[cyllan]

for peanuts? Those must be some mutant big peanuts!

Gone are the days when people enjoyed games for the games I guess, rather than the memory chugging graphics that most of them feel they have to have.

I mean look at Valkeria Chronicles, one of my favourate games of all times, and yet that was not hyper realistic graphics at all! And the content in the story, from a small nation fighting an empire, to tones of racism. Sure it ran on the PS3, but I've seen many games in my time that are just as potent games, and that isn't because of the graphics

well i am not 12 anymore, my days of playing green beret and golden axe arcade are well gone, you woulndt enjoy oblivion/ fallout 3 and skyrim without good graphics, good graphics enable better inmersion, if coders dont sort gameplay issues games will fall, it has to be both things these days, even the developers of this game have hinted a completely new engine for "the next game..." i think 3D,

if it takes so much effort to animate pixels that you cant afford female soldiers that should say something.

nostalgia is really nice sometimes until you watch it back as an adult, then you mostly feel dissapointed, how many people play elite/shogun/medieval totalt war 1 these days? consistenly and for real?...... i think is time to move on with the new times

[Straker]

There are still alot of old 2D games with bad graphics that are still alot of fun to play. Like X-Com for example?

[anotherdevil]

you woulndt enjoy oblivion/ fallout 3 and skyrim without good graphics

you are obviously modding the hell out of oblivion and fallout 3 if you think the graphics in those games are good...

good graphics enable better inmersion, if coders dont sort gameplay issues games will fall, it has to be both things these days

As I said, Valkeria chronicles has a hand drawn art style, not super realistic graphics. Yet despite that the game brought me right in, and I loved every minute of it. Immersion was there, even though I was never fooled into thinking that I was really there...

even the developers of this game have hinted a completely new engine for "the next game..." i think 3D

The next game Goldhawk is going to do isn't going to be Xenonauts 2. Rather Chris hinted that in hindsight 3D graphics would have been a better option to begin with

if it takes so much effort to animate pixels that you cant afford female soldiers that should say something.

Female soldiers are not in for a number of reasons, though I will admit that the cost of rendering anything with the current engine is supposed to be expensive. It's a limitation of the engine, rather than the animation really, at least as I understand it

nostalgia is really nice sometimes until you watch it back as an adult, then you mostly feel dissapointed, how many people play elite/shogun/medieval totalt war 1 these days? consistenly and for real?...... i think is time to move on with the new times

I think that's a bit of a hard sell on these forums. There are many, many, people on these that still play the original 2 X-Com games, and are not hindered by the graphics. Even though there are newer, prettier, 'successors'