StellarRat Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 (edited) When a unit reaction fires it does not use burst fire even if that is only type of fire a unit is capable of (M-60) and it has enough AP. Max_Caine and I have never seen any type of unit use burst fire during reaction fire and Max says that even the MG only fires singles. Unfortunately this is a very difficult thing to test with the current state of the AI. I'm sure Goldhawk can setup a good test of this. Also, no one seems to know how or if you can set what type of reaction fire a unit will use if it has several options (lots of AP.) Edited September 13, 2012 by StellarRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volcris Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I can confirm this, I rarely use the MG, but I brought it out on some trial runs on a new game. A Sibby darted down a row of crates into the waiting Barrel of my MGer. While the one round fired was enough for the injured greenback, it was still odd to see only one round from the weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobfury Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Yep, I can confirm this bug too. The same happens if the light drone reaction fires too. A single shot, with no sound effect and the animation also seems, rushed, somehow. Can't quite explain what I mean there but it's as if the game's not processing the action correctly and so the camera doesn't track the projectile in the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) I thought I would bump this, I know it's very old, but I have yet to see a LMG or heavy weapon of any kind do reaction fire. Even in 17.91 . Can anyone confirm this? Edited April 1, 2013 by StellarRat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I think I had a single shot come out of an LMG as reaction fire a few times. I remember it looking very odd compared to its usual fire mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 So, it's still broken then... Giovanni! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GizmoGomez Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Personally, I think the reaction fire from an LMG should be a burst. Isn't that what it's designed for? Plus, it could suppress the alien right then and there (although, having him stop out in the open and crouch isn't the most realistic of ideas, and would probably be somewhat op). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 Personally, I think the reaction fire from an LMG should be a burst. Isn't that what it's designed for? Plus, it could suppress the alien right then and there (although, having him stop out in the open and crouch isn't the most realistic of ideas, and would probably be somewhat op).From my friends with military experience, "It takes a super good/experienced LMG gunner to intentionally fire LESS than three rounds." And from my perspective it's silly not to let them fire a full burst. If there was ever a good time to fire multiple rounds it would be when the target is moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svidangel Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Hmm, if by "heavy" you include rocket launchers, then yeah, plenty of reaction fire there! Haven't used the LMGs much recently though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Hmm, if by "heavy" you include rocket launchers, then yeah, plenty of reaction fire there! Haven't used the LMGs much recently though.OK, well, that's good news then. So, maybe only burst fire weapons have a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Having tested this myself, the "burst fire as singles" is endemic to all burst fire type weapons as far as lasers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted April 2, 2013 Author Share Posted April 2, 2013 Having tested this myself, the "burst fire as singles" is endemic to all burst fire type weapons as far as lasers.So, it still needs to be fixed. Can one of the Admins change the title to make it a 17.91 bug? Gauddlike? I don't want this to get lost in the shuffle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svidangel Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I think I have noticed the LMG able to reaction fire even without 45 TUs reserved though, so I was always ok with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GizmoGomez Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 How about if there's 45 tis or more, the LMG will reaction fire with a burst. If less, then fire a single shot? Or should it be burst or nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giovanni Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 So, it's still broken then... Giovanni! At your orders, dark lord. Seems to be fixed in the dev version. But please bump it up if you still see it in the upcoming build! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 At your orders, dark lord. Seems to be fixed in the dev version. But please bump it up if you still see it in the upcoming build!Awesome, I'll test it in the next release. Thanks Giovanni! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shima Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) BUMP! This issue still exists in V18 hotfix 1 Standalone (and it's not mentioned as fixed in hotfix 2). I can prepare all my soldiers with full TU's, magazines and set them for burst and they still fire only one single shot per turn for their reaction fire. Concerns both rifles and carbines. I don't remember if I've had any machinegun reaction fire but I don't think so. Edited April 11, 2013 by Shima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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