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Well written Volcris, I would be curious what you do for day job? You para reads like it belongs in PC Gamer or somesuch...

Gazz = pure evil....

Just to throw some wood on the fire, I've added a Xenonauts version poll to this thread for a laugh, and to see if it can be done right... Though statistically, we probably won't have the numbers...

Yee-hah Chris, have an awesome holiday!

Phonetics or we don't believe you....

No great loss re tassie IMO, and I'm quite happy for Victoria to get a shake-up; I've explored it to death, and would love some new topography to explore!

I'm with Valok here: just get both. They are completely different to each other, as what Chris has described; I don't think a comparison makes any sense. EU is a modern re-imagining, whereas Xenonauts is

Some free market research for Chris!!! http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?127031-What-age-are-my-follow-XCOM-enthusiasts-here Edit: Just to throw some wood on the fire, I've added a Xenonauts version to this thread for a laugh, and to see if it can be done right... Though statistically, we probably won't have the numbers...

Be afraid, be very afraid.....

Clearly you are suffering the consequences of contracting out you armament maintenance needs to off-shore vendors....

Have watched this sporadically for awhile, then it slid from under my radar. http://www.fray-game.com/en/weblog/ Basically a turn based PvP squad-level tactical competition, closest analogy I'm aware of is the XCOM: EU MP mode and Frozen Synapse, but solely online (I think?). Summary here http://www.examiner.com/article/fray-preview-meet-xcom-s-inspired-cousin?CID=examiner_alerts_article The achilles heal, in this case, was the last part: solely online MP. Released early June, I think reading between the lines, that they had massive server/connection issues (don't quote me here, I've just briefly skimmed), which effectively broke the game and alienated the customers fast. http://www.fray-game.com/en/forum/topic/346/ The Forums (and the general lack of posts in the last couple of months) is a little frightening. Obviously a very / completely different game and 'infrastructure' to XCOM. Anyway, an interesting case study for those interested.

Sounds like a simple and effective solution!

Here's a new video [video=youtube;HkskkoIc01g]

"BATTLETOAD" for the win!!!! and this is gold: And this programmers name are gold (not to mention the faces match well!)

Background: the Greek Island of Limnos is the setting for the next ARMA 3 release. http://www.dsogaming.com/news/two-czech-men-were-arrested-at-limnos-island-by-the-greek-police-claim-to-be-members-of-bohemia-interactive/ Confirmed by the CEO of BI: http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?139877-Two-BI-employees-arrested-in-Lemnos&p=2221846&viewfull=1#post2221846 This is true. We prefer this topic not to be discussed on our forums atm, at least until we know more specific details about the case so I am going to close this topic and our moderators are going to close any related dicussion here, thank you for understanding.

Walls are definitely destructible, and fire once started, spreads rapidly, removing pathing options (except for one of the armour suits that is fireproof, or flyers). Saw both of these in the PAX gameplay streams. http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?117515-X-COM-Information-Summarized-READ-ME-FIRST! e.g. via this to

LOLS at re-mentions of my spray armour idea, it was only proposed as a humorous jest / tongue in cheek at insta-heals... Next thing we'll have wizards and magiks!!!

Perhaps its more a gameplay balancing issue, terror sites perhaps should be balanced to start a little later in the game, with perhaps some kind of re searchable upgrade to the Chinooks (e.g Hercules with longer range, but more expensive). Or, purchasable long-range fuel tanks for the Chinook from the get-go, that consume significant space (eg 4 or 6 slots). So you can respond to these far flung events, but with smaller numbers of troops in the early game. Later, if you decide to do the research and stump the cash, get a bigger transport that has the range and cargo space? Just ideas.

-1 Just to be a devil's advocate, but not a big fan, sounds horribly RTS to me. Medic pack to stabilise a wounded/critical/bleeding team-mate is one thing, battlefield repairs on a vehicle mid-firefight is quite another. Only thing IRL in such a context that would make sense is fixing a flat tyre/unjamming weapon/resetting weapon computer. Unless alien tech is so advanced a 'support' person has a can of instant-spray armour fix....... Armour HP loss is a workshop job, otherwise I could see the tank/support combo being leveraged in an over the top recon role (push tank out, takes fire, pull back, repair, rinse and repeat.) Just sayin! ;D

So, what, the wrench repairs tank HP? I can see the support class welding this in one hand, and a medi-kit in the other....

Both have been reported : http://www.goldhawkinteractive.com/forums/showthread.php/2839-v14-Healing-team-mate-turns-health-bar-dark-grey-and-health-0 http://www.goldhawkinteractive.com/forums/showthread.php/2868-V14-Ground-Combat-Advanced-Medpacks-vanish-when-placed-in-soldiers-hands?highlight=advanced

See here Irishguy: http://www.goldhawkinteractive.com/forums/showthread.php/2540-Shooting-over-adjacent-crouched-soldiers?highlight=crouch

They supply a Steam key.

LOL Korval, unless I'm very wrong, ALL the tier 2 stuff is SOLELY window dressing for anyone who plays TF2. Haircut, pin, etc, all TF2 in-game content. Absolutely of no interest to me..... Oh, and Greg @2K has guaranteed that all Steam Pre-orders will come with the DLC stuff, and the Green-Man Games link I posted above, does so as well. http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?132641-Don-t-worry-you-still-get-Elite-Soldier-Pack-guaranteed-with-Steam!&p=1751496#post1751496

Personally I'm not seeing any tangible reason to pre-order on Steam at all in this instance (aside from release date); its actually cheaper for me to get a retail pre-order here in Oz. Actually, for an other Ozzies, here's you best price! http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?132696-XCOM-on-Green-Man-Gaming-%28Cheaper-for-Aussies!%29