stewpidbear

No problemo! Was wondering if I’d done anything wrong though......

Skynet?

Ooooh (looking at the photo) a .50 cal Anti-material rifle would certainly smart against an Alien!

While I do agree with you a real life example of danger close grenades was the Battle Of Hue in Vietnam where the Vietcong were getting so close that US Marines threw grenades close into the enemy and hunkered down and tried to absorb the fragments in the back of their flak jackets!

Totally agree.

Been playing this new game, very good tactical game but no strategy. If you like MYZ you’ll love this.

I honestly wasn’t trying to be objectionable in my suggestion, I was looking at the set up as it would be in some reasonable ‘real’ life basis (I know it’s fiction but it’s the suspension of disbelief creeping in, to me that is). I think I’m looking at it in my mind with real life vs game life if that makes sense.

Thinking more about this, perhaps make the HEVY launcher non reloadable in the field and limit it to two per squad? In “real” life a squad would be highly unlikely to have more than two heavy weapons, perfect SciFi example is Aliens where the Marines have two smart guns, not more. Another research branch could be individual LAW rockets which were definitely around in the 80’s.

That’s the one! MARS MkII

Are all the kickstarter names in it yet?

Definite yes to HEVY being a micro missile launcher, saves you a lot of messing about, as grenade launchers are by nature quite accurate and may unbalance the game as is. Grenades “should” be able to be thrown in a parabolic arc, as well as being bowled under arm in a straight throw. A trooper by a doorway should be able to throw it into a room quite far without it being disallowed by the arc hitting the ceiling. As for accuracy, further the throw, if failed more deviance, the nearer the throw more accuracy, and if failed near miss of the intended target but tough still gets splash damage........grenades do have quite a large area of effect.

I don’t know why, but just had an image of R2D2 with a riot shield.............

I know it’s a very difficult balancing act and there are other important updates to do but after trying a HEVY launcher on a MARS today the grenade scatter really made the mission almost unplayable. I had to savescum, change the seed a number of times just to have a reasonable change to hit the side of a UFO. Also haystacks seem remarkably grenade proof

Very minor question but in the ‘finished’ version will the graphics of the MARS change when you alter the load out? Just trying the HEVY launcher on it!

Hee, hee

Oh please!

HEAP rounds, drop one on top of a UFO/Building so it punches through the roof and then dentonates. Flechette rounds, shreds anything organic in a narrow cone.

Many thanks mate for the reply. One thing to remember chaps.......never throw a grenade into a room that may have bigger explosive things in it .......smouldering crater time!

Hiya Chris was just wondering if this was going to be implemented in the next big update. Haven’t been able to play recently due to health and have decided to leave playing until (hopefully) this is done. Thank you.

More destructible buildings and terrain features for more tactical options.

It would certainly add another tactical option.

On one of the middle eastern maps I had a squad on overwatch on top of a building 5 squares away from a UFO. I can blow in the sides with a HEVY launcher but not the roof bug or not? I wanted a hole in the roof to cover the side incursion. Sorry about grenades but it is different!

I do apologise, but it is extremely frustrating.

Prime example of this see photo. Grenade launcher in door way on left with clear sight to ufo, lands 2 squares away wounding own troops.

Everyone plays Xenonauts in a different way, and that’s a good thing, but a nightmare for the developers who are trying to cater for everyone with different play styles and tactics. I do feel at the moment that I am being forced to play the game a certain way and have to follow a proscribed step of tactics to move forward. I realise that you have to learn to combat the aliens and change you tactics as the game progresses but, perhaps it’s me, I do feel there is only one way to do it. Now I’m comparing this to the newer Xcom games, and with those I could play the way I wanted without fear of being penalised by the game mechanics. My biggest bear about this is the background fluff that says the troops for Xenonauts are trained soldiers...................the mechanics of the game (to me) certainly don’t reflect this. I have given up playing now because I’m so frustrated by the number of times my troops are killed by grenades fired or thrown by their own comrades, and shot by troops behind them on a higher level (especially those at the foot of the ramp and those at the top of the ramp!). And if one person says use smoke........the rotors of the craft would disperse it!!! Please, please do something about the grenade algorithms and the to hit your own people data!