Chris

In all likelihood you'll get both keys on release, but at worst you'll get to choose which.

Mmm. Still doesn't sound great then..

Cool. But are there any other major new crashes that arise from using it?

OK, we've just patched the Ferret-driving-through-the-wall crash bug and are updating the Desura auto-updater branches with V17.51. Dunno how long Desura will take to approve it, but I'm not uploading the standalones until I've confirmed it's fixed The update contains only a patched Xenonauts.exe, which can be downloaded direct here: http://www.xenonauts.com/devfiles/Xenonauts.exe Let me know how stable the game is with the update. The save game crash etc has not been patched, just the destruction of terrain crash.

Nah I just put measurements in whatever I think sounds cool, except Fahrenheit (because that's ridiculous).

The reason we've gone for relatively short sight ranges (and deliberately enclosed parts of the map) is to keep the suspense of "what's just around the corner?" that is very X-Com. Realistic sight ranges really would make the combat far more of a war of attrition and I think it'd make it more tedious if I'm honest. That said, we are in the process of making larger maps. The mid-size UFO maps are 70x70 instead of 60x60 , and I'm working on a medium size terror map that is rectangular but still larger than the current maps. Bear in mind the different missions are meant to have different feels - the crash sites are meant to be more of a search-and-destroy mission where limited sight ranges are important, whereas the terror sites are meant to be more of a straight-up deathmatch. Therefore the terror sites are more open in layout (the new one is a town plaza map) and may be more to your tastes.

We made a decision not to do this early in development because while more accurate, it isn't actually more intuitive to the player. I stand by that decision, but even if I changed my mind it's now far too late to change it!

OK, we'll try and patch this ASAP but our ground combat coder is currently celebrating Christmas (he's from the Ukraine) so service is a bit slower than normal unfortunately...

I've already seen Ghost in the Shell, Gorlom, and I did indeed like it. I've also seen Akira, which was rubbish. I saw Appleseed, which I thought was pretty but fairly average, and then I watched the full series of Evangelion and thought it was awesome (if completely batshit insane). I'm aware there's other types of anime, but I don't have time to watch any of it...

Yeah this is even happening in the dev version. Thanks for letting us know.

Fair point, oversight on my part. We'll make the number change colour then.

Removing Antialiasing fixed the problem for you, anzacloner? How did you do that? In the launcher options? Are you other guys with crashes playing on small screen resolutions?

Destroyed, as opposed to just run over? Even by rocket fire or weapon fire? Can anyone else confirm this if so?

My god, anime looks stunning these days. It's a shame there's no robots fighting each other (and I was under the impression that was mandatory...)

It's because the Geoscape topbar is slightly different (the screen scales widthways rather than vertically when you use 16:10 rather than 16:9) so it's not been implemented yet. Trashman - no idea, that's Desura's problem.

God damn it. That's one text file I mis-set causing the research tree issues (/assets/_basebuilt.lua). It's only in the standalone, though, for some reason - and I'm not reuploading 4gb of files to fix it....

Cool, post updated to reflect that. Let me know if there's any major game-breaking bugs in it.

Build V17.5 has been release, but this is a multi-step process so we'll keep you updated on it in this post. The standalones are available on Desura for download. Desura auto-updater versions are available for download. Mac and Linux ports have not yet been done; we'll port it across when it's confirmed there are no game-breaking bugs in it. This is mostly an infrastructure update, but the update is very large in terms of file size (hence why the multi-step process). The build is a total of 4.4gb as it is no longer sanitised at all - it contains all of the assets in the dev build. The new file compression system (full details below) means some are locked away in archives, but it also means that the new archives have to be downloaded even if you already have all of the contents on your computer from the last build. So, yeah, big download! Incidentally, the build hasn't been sanitised because we might use any of the aliens in the level testing that we started earlier this month and it means people will be able to take part in it much more easily if they already have all the files on their PC. These are the key features: Updated Level Editor: The entire level generation system has been updated. The sub-map / level distinction remains (with separate editors for each), but the Level Editor is now much upgraded. It now has a layer system, with Ground, Wall, Prop and Building layers, each of which can inherit ground tiles from the layer below them if they don't have them set. Previously if you wanted a map with a field with a tree in it, you had to create a sub-map with both of those in it and edit it if you want to move the trees - plus it wasn't visible in the level editor where the trees were, because the entire sub-map was one entity. Now the trees are on a separate layer you can move them direct in the level editor with a couple of clicks, or place new ones equally easily. We've also added colour coding so it's much clearer which tiles represent which sub-maps, so snow maps appear white and grass tiles green etc. This makes generating maps pretty easy, actually, maybe give it a try. GCLevelEditor.exe in the game directory. More Maps & Tiles: We've added some new maps, though not yet for the Middle East or Soviet Town tilesets. There'll be more for beta obviously, but the headlines are that the Base Defence missions should now work properly (if you can get far enough in the game for it to happen) and the Desert tiles are now all set up correctly, so the maps for them should work properly now. We've also added trees to the Arctic tilesets, which make the maps less empty. Also, animated water tiles for the Arctic tileset. Oh, and the Industrial tileset has had a bit of a facelift - some trains in that now. Quite a few tiles haven't yet been painted over in 2D, so they're just rendered tiles. The paintovers will happen in time. New UI: The new Geoscape UI topbar has been added on all of the management screens, and the new Ground Combat UI has been added. These is the final UI style, and we've made the images for the ground combat interface quite a bit sharper (the weapon images etc) as before there were issues with image scaling. This should no longer be the case, so unless you were lucky before and had a good resolution the images should be sharper than before. We've also made the Main Menu screen text scale with resolution, so having a big monitor no longer makes it totally unreadable. The entire UI will use that system when we finish implementing the new look, obviously. Desura file compression: This has compressed a bunch of game files into archives, which will reduce the file count for the game by about 75%. This means the Desura auto-updater should work properly again, and also means that moving or copying the game folders will be dramatically faster than before. The file compressed version will be only be used when the player is downloading from the Desura auto-updater client. Those downloading using the standalone will continue to have the full-size version with about 100,000 files in it. This is because the archive files can't be opened by programs like WinZip etc and thus the contents cannot be accessed by players - closing a lot of the game off to modders. Thus if you want to mod the game, get the standalone. This will not reduce the audience for mods, though, as the game will search the /assets/ directory for pre-existing files before loading them from an archive. Someone with a compressed version of the game will be able to use a mod if they are sent the modded files and put them in the correct directory structure. Slight Balancing: The starting UFOs (Light Scout, Scout) should have a few more aliens in them to make the early missions more challenging. The previous numbers didn't really factor in the fact that a lot of aliens died on impact. More Sprites: We've added sprites for an entire alien race to the game, plus the sprites for all of the Xenonaut vehicles are now done too (meaning all the Xenonaut units are now in the game). We've also redone the Light Drone so it doesn't look so much like a Tau gun drone, as I don't want to risk a lawsuit. It's now animated as well. We've also modelled and added the big brothers of the Light Drone (also animated) so the alien vehicles are complete. We might add some new ones in beta, but these are all we have planned for now. There's one more major alien race to add (currently rendering), plus some tileset-specific civilians and one minor sub-species of alien. Not far to go. Autohide Roof: Buildings now have roofs on by default. Going inside or behind a building will make the roof disappear so you can see your units. This works pretty well but there is some strange behaviour, which you should report on the forums so we can have it working as intended for the beta. Online Data: This build hopefully will contain code that passed anonymous information to our servers to let us know various information on the game balance - how many people use various weapons, how many people win a given mission etc. We don't know if this is working or not, but if your firewall tells you Xenonauts is trying to pass information to an external source, this is why. It'll be really useful to give us stats we can use to balance the game. We're working on a switch to turn it off if people don't want their games to do it, but that's not done yet. Should be in the beta as part of the new launcher. Actually, seems there is quite a lot of stuff in the new build! Report any crash bugs on the forums please, but if there's anything that makes the game unplayable it'd be good to post it in this thread too.

Just an update - I'll be going to the office tomorrow and uploading V17.5 to Desura. I hope it doesn't have too many bugs in it!

It won't be coming before Christmas now. We had three important crash / unplayable bugs to fix, which we have - but now it turns out that our file-packing system has stopped working so the game can't read the files inside the packages any more. Everyone's a bit busy with Christmas over the coming few days to do much about it at this point though! I'll be semi-working from the 27th and perhaps there'll be the build available at around that time, but again I can't promise anything. Everything is a bit sketchy at this time of year.

All of the criticism of it so far seems to be "I don't like the visual style", which is very subjective and in matters of taste my personal preference reigns supreme. Naturally I have noted that a number of people don't like the more colourful style as much, but not enough of them to make me seriously consider changing it given I spent quite a long time experimenting with the various visual styles we could have gone for and I think this works best. If people had pointed out valid flaws in the functionality of the screen then I'd have to address that though. Such as on a previous Research concept, there was no way to select which base to hire scientists to etc - but I can't see much of that.

I can't say for sure. We locked down the assets for the new build today so it's ready to go on that front, but there's still a few bugs / hangs that need fixing in it. It's not far away though!

Plus, importantly, you have access to any of the base screens from the new Geoscape at a click and the pop-up alert messages don't have to just fade out with time as they're no longer obscuring the view of the map. So we can make better use of them to give the player notifications about things happening in their base too. So more functionality as well!

I think it's quite funny how attached people have got to the awful old Geoscape. I also think it's quite amusing how a few people are claiming it is harder to imagine that you're sat in a bunker controlling everything on a big screen with the new UI, given the fact you can actually see the walls of the bunker and the screen itself (and the other people in the command room!) I'm sure you'll all get used to it with time, anyway.

So today I've done various things, but at about midday the updated background art for the new Geoscape screen arrived and I went back to trying to find the look I want for the Geoscape in our new UI. I think I'm pretty much there now. Here we go: http://www.xenonauts.com/devimages/Geoscape_normal.jpg http://www.xenonauts.com/devimages/Geoscape_zoomed.jpg For comparison, this is the current Geoscape: http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5035/xenonauts20120106203251.jpg Basically, we've made it a bit more colourful and used the trusty black border around the landmasses to give them that handpainted feel. We'll redo the base / UFO / aircraft icons to fit the style a bit better too, but hopefully you'll agree that it will make the game significantly nicer than it currently is! Comments and feedback welcome.