Nfire3 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 I tend to have my soliders go through cover and flank the aliens and those wire fences are a pain because they take alot of AP to destroy using guns and a waste of ammo using a rocket launcher, so I was wondering if you are going to implement a melee attack or a knife to destroy flimsy cover like fences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherdevil Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 you should be able to melee with all weapons yes. Whether it will be a hit with the stock of the gun, or a knife jab, is unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathra Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Also unknown is if melee strikes will be usuable against terrain. Chris was favourable towards melee strikes to break windows, but its unlikely that there will be melee focused weapons beyond the stun rod/shock baton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nfire3 Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Are there any weapons that will destroy fences in a hit or 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathra Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Grenades? That or run it over with the Ferret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achire Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Fences seem more annoying than they should be. How about adding JA2 style wire cutters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamkyon Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Fences seem more annoying than they should be. How about adding JA2 style wire cutters? I agree with your assessment, but I don't think adding an item that would be of limited use is worth the hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfy Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I kind of hope that there aren't knives, it would take the futuristic and strategic feel out of it you can just go up and knife them :l I DO like stun rods, because you can take them back for research, well, at least in the original X-COM you can. I hope you can in Xenonauts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherdevil Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 you can if you can contain them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibidibop Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I suggested the following before, but it bears repeating. What if the empty hand automatically has a knife in melee attack? Expanding this, what if it automatically has wire cutters against fences? This way, there's no added micromanagement, and empty hands are suddenly useful. The implications are, knives and wire cutters have their own pockets, always carried, and extremely easy to draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceVamp Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Wire cutters, yeah I can see that. But every soldier carries a knife, but it's more of a tool than a weapon. You you are carrying a rifle and run out of ammo in a close encounter, you ram the other guy in the face with the pipe of your gun, you don't draw a blade. His face will be a mess, and you can proceed to do whatever. Draw a sidearm for example. But bayonets were still used in the 70's I think. However I don't think the M-16 had a fixture for it. If one has a hand empty.. I dunno. Personally I wouldn't run around with a knife. That only happens in modern war fps's. You could always pretend your soldier shank people The knife would hardly be visible on this scale anyways? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straker Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 From my own experience, carrying something like a Swiss army knife or simple tools was very common. Special Forces would also have their Bowie (or Rambo) knives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straker Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 However I don't think the M-16 had a fixture for it. It does but its not used very often. I've seen it in elite units like honour guards. The army and marines still train with bayonets. I never saw a use for them though. I figure if someone was that close to me then I was doing something wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thann Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I think there should be no item for wire cutting, but i think the soldiers should have something to cut wires in their standard equipment. Perhaps it could be implemented, that a soldier can cut a wire fence by right clicking on it (for some action points). Or there could be some sort of tool button next to the weapon slots or a tool box as an item for equipping with more than one purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibidibop Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 It does but its not used very often. I've seen it in elite units like honour guards. The army and marines still train with bayonets. I never saw a use for them though. I figure if someone was that close to me then I was doing something wrong. The last bayonet charge was by a British squad in roughly in 2003, in Iraq. They ran out of ammo against a superior force, and scared them enough with the charge that the enemy ran off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 If you can target the fence at melee range and attack you can damage or destroy it. If you want to justify it by saying you kicked the fence down or used wire cutters it doesn't matter. The important thing is that fences should be taken down fairly easily at melee range. The down side is that you then need to ensure that aliens also know this and can take it into account when planning their movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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