StellarRat Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 100 TUs is another known issue. You ought pursue the bug report section for experimental builds occasionally if you have time. Most enlightening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViniJones Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I delve there to raise my self-esteem sometimes. If anything is an issue, its the soldier stats limited to 101, so they cant reach the same TU numbers as the aliens have. Other than that, I dont think sebillians are op or anything. Edit: What Ish is describing actually is a bug and I believe Chris said its getting fixed before releasing the new stable version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytheos Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I believe Aaron said he accidentally set the range too long on Sebillians and Androns in the last release. Sebs are set to 16, Androns 14 Thought that seems slightly suspect from my playtesting. /shrug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytheos Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Tho they could be "working" correctly, and you just get screwed due to squad sight from some random Alien seeing you through a wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytheos Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I believe Ive covered this in my rant enough, but yes. Androns are the worst, theres something wrong in there , but the reaction fire feels different in every species Ive encountered this last playthrough. I actually like the enemy fighting back for once though. As for your guys missing, believe it or not, but my people got better after a few missions and can now shoot as good as a 15yr old playing paintball. Which is a tremendous improvement. Edit: I have no trouble shooting from charlies, UFOs seem a bit fishy sometimes, but its a LOT better than 19.5. I dont shoot in point blank at all, I either stun baton them, or go with 3 tile approach: Alien l cover l Xenonaut with no spaces between I always get 95 percent and hit almost as often. Not sure what the issues with your Androns are, but they have an Accuracy range of 50-80, and reflexes are all 50. Caesans are 50-80 Accuracy as well, but all have reflexes of 80, as well as farther sight range. Based on rank anyways their accuracy scales the same I believe, but the difference in 50 reflexes and 80 is rather massive. Granted you can just sneeze and suppress a Caesan tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViniJones Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 My main issue with Androns is that they shoot from the landing ship top floor onto the heads of my troops on the ground floor, efficiently hitting and killing them if theyre standing in a wrong spot. They also shoot through walls in alien bases too, although thats from a week or so back. Your numbers are correct again. Caesans get suppressed easily indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mytheos Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 Yeah the shooting through walls bug is incredibly annoying, it's my number #1 PLEASE GOD FIX THIS bug...unfortunately its been in every version 19 build so far. I thought you felt Androns were OP specifically, didnt know you were referring to a bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishantil Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 Being sniped from across the map all the time with auto-fire shots is a bit frustrating, though. I can't even saturate the area with grenades, either. Which is lame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViniJones Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 If youre being sniped from afar, theres most likely another alien within sight range, who is spotting for the sniper. Its bassicly what ground combat is about. Their burst shots do hit much better than mine do... so I single shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishantil Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 I think you are right, ViniJones. It looks like this was two bugs combining like Voltron. The Androns have a very long sight range and there was an Andron in the building I had to dig out later was seeing through several walls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishantil Posted August 10, 2013 Author Share Posted August 10, 2013 Current base mission. Alien in cover. Number of "95%" shots missed: 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViniJones Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 I just took a shot from a flanking angle in an alien base power cord room. It said 8% chance to hit, but I knew the angle was legit. I hit 3 times in a row. Weapon used Laser Carbine: aimed shot (25TU) Snipers have 95% through cover over the mountains and through the woods, the real chance is different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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