*DarkGui* Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 I could not find anything about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hi, Yes they should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DarkGui* Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 What do I need to reseach them? I already researched the "Alien Plasma Weapons" topic and the Alien Alloys topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 PM coming your way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 They should even be in the "demo" available on the kickstarter page (the campaign is over but the kickstarter page is still there) I say demo because that is what Chris named it but really it is just a very stable build (like version 10.2 or something, we are at version 17.6 so it's relatively old though) of the alpha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DarkGui* Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Gorlom, I forgot to research alenium and alien alloy fabrication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 It's a long road to pew pew guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DarkGui* Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 It's a long road to pew pew guns. I need to research alenium, right? Chris said that the clips of the laser guns will, in the beta, need alenium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Yup. And don't forget the prequisite to alenium! Basically, you have do a lot of busywork to unlock tier 2. It's nice-to-read busywork, but busywork nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DarkGui* Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 There is a prerequisite to Alenium?? I´m a noob on Xenonauts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Okay, I'd really rather not spoil the road to tier 2 on the forum, so I'll PM you the list of researches to get to lasers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DarkGui* Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Thanks:) Is there a wiki for Xenonauts? Off-Topic: Why there is not a "Xenonauts Strategy" part of the forums? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 There you go. DarkGui, the game isn't out of Alpha yet and when it goes into Beta, there will be a lot of polishing, tweaking, tuning and changing. There's no point in writing a strategy guide for a game that isn't done, yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 http://xenowiki.goldhawkinteractive.com/index.php?title=Main_Page http://www.xenonauts.com/manual.html These might have some information that is useful to you. Some people have said they could not make an account to edit the wiki but I don't know if that is the case for everyone or if it is still the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 If anyone *can* make an account in the Wiki, could they post please? It wasn't working when I last tried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DarkGui* Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swe_Racoon Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Pew-pew lazors is such a hassle for not enough bang, I daresay. Now Alienum (I'll never learn to spell that, I think...) warheads is where it's at. A MiG with four of those babies will make that pesky corvette think twice about strutting around my planet. What's that? Fighter escort... Well, darn... In all seriousness though, I do think the way towards laser weaponry is long (but as Max_Caine said, fun-to-read busywork). I rather like the fact that they are not inherently better than ye olde slug thrower either (at least not last time I checked), which was something that always bugged me in the original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturius Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I seriously hope that road to next tier weapons after laser is even longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swe_Racoon Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Will keep those eggheads busy at least. I never did understand all their writing and scribbling on that blackboard, seems to me that there's a whole lot of effort involved in getting something to go more boom than before. Now don't get me wrong, more boom good. More boom mean more dead alien. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DarkGui* Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Also, are on the alpha human plasma weapons and Tier 4 MAG(Gauss) weapons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It would be easier to just say human tier 3 and tier 4 weapons. It is currently a bit hard to understand the question without looking at the spoiler. No, those are not part of the alpha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DarkGui* Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 NOOOOOO!!!! I understand why, but I want high tier weapons. Also, we only have the Xenonaut equivalent of X-COM personal armor, as far as I know. Limited research is annoying, but this alpha is purposefully content-light, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swe_Racoon Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It would be easier to just say human tier 3 and tier 4 weapons. It is currently a bit hard to understand the question without looking at the spoiler.No, those are not part of the alpha. I just came back from a session, and I had tier 3 available for research before even tier 2 (down to the lack of a certain artefact, no doubt). Kinda lacking in the description department and I've not tried to manufacture them, but they are there in the list of weaponry to be manufactured. That being said, I think Chris said that anything above tier 2 hasn't been properly balanced yet and is actually weaker than some of the earlier weapons. Also, regarding personal armour, I'm pretty sure Wolf armour has been available for quite a long time. Just a lot of stepping stones to actually being able to produce it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*DarkGui* Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 I just came back from a session, and I had tier 3 available for research before even tier 2 (down to the lack of a certain artefact, no doubt). Kinda lacking in the description department and I've not tried to manufacture them, but they are there in the list of weaponry to be manufactured. Cool! The point of lasers on X-COM and the reason they were my favorite tier (Plasma is evil) was that they had no ammo. Now I know I can use a strong and expensive plasma gun, because if lasers had ammo on the OG, I woud never use them on the ground battle (Sellig aircraft lasers for fun and profit!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swe_Racoon Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Here we go, the exact qoute from the "V17.6 Released" thread. Research tree: I’ve been working on the Research Tree, on and off. I’ve written about 45 of the research project descriptions now, with another 30 or to go. The entire research tree should be in this build, but the mid-to-late game has not been balanced at all. A lot of the end-game equipment is actually worse than the stuff that came before it for that reason. Wait till beta before pushing too deep into the game. So that would mean everything you can research is in the Alpha as of now, in varying stages of completion and balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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