lordfeff Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 So is this bug an instant crash when the level loads up or does it happen when you try to interact with something?If it is a crash on interaction does it make a difference what you try to interact with? It happens when you "CLICK" on a unit be it soldier or tank. You can avoid the crash by using the hot keys to select, well at least for me that is the case. I can also tell you that all tanks are poison so you should not use them in 13.2. I have changed a rocket tank to an MG tank which actually kicked major butt however once I reached ground mission 4 i got the destroyed tank model on load and I "Clicked" on it like a fool and then came the infamous CTD. I am currently working on playing through VMware player with one of my alternate OS's I have from my old decommissioned computers. The reason is that I do not want to save as I believe loading a save game is just as poisonous as using the tanks. If your wondering VMware is software that allows you to run another OS on your computer in a window(sorta like remote desktop works) as when you close it the state of the computer is suspended and can be resumed from any point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgurthion Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Only work-around that worked for me was decommissioning the Chinook and ordering a new one. Vehicles-tab's still messed up so I've no chance of using vehicles again, but I can continue playing using only soldiers, so far at least. It still freezes sometimes, but now it isn't as persistent as before, a couple of reloads usually does the trick to get it moving again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhNoItsNot Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 So far I've found that if you save it before missions and reload enough times eventually it'll just work, although I am having to restart the game 1-2 times per mission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUbiquitous Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Only work-around that worked for me was decommissioning the Chinook and ordering a new one. Not a total failsafe. Still got CTD on my second mission, when clicking on a soldier. Incidentally, what are the hotkeys for soldiers 11-1x? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftyRighty Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Not a total failsafe. Still got CTD on my second mission, when clicking on a soldier.Incidentally, what are the hotkeys for soldiers 11-1x? 1-x for soldiers, ctrl+1-x for vehicles iirc, haven't managed to get this build working yet, desura died on me and I've not had the time to get it back up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUbiquitous Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 What's the hotkey for soldier 11? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordfeff Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 1-x for soldiers, ctrl+1-x for vehicles iirc, haven't managed to get this build working yet, desura died on me and I've not had the time to get it back up... The manual download is up so you don't need desura. As for the other gentlemens question there is a game manual posted for this game although I am not sure if 11 and 12 are bound yet. I click On there mini stat bars to select them for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUbiquitous Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Well, that's what starts the crashes sometimes, so maybe these guys will just hang out at the Chinook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 What's the hotkey for soldier 11? shift + numkey 1-6 for soldiers 11-16 http://www.goldhawkinteractive.com/forums/showthread.php/1683-Hotkey-List?highlight=hotkeys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathd Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 (edited) Having the lockup problem in missions, it worked ok for the first couple of missions now it seems to lock everytime (last 3 attempts at a mission) How do I upload the dump file it creates??? when I try to attach it to this message I just keep getting taken to a screen saying the post im looking for is not available!??? Edit: Managed to get through one more mission after several restarts by using the num keys to select, but then the second mission of a new game the soldiers just wouldnt move out of the ship (wrong union I guess). they will turn to face a right click and crouch using the c key and change fire mode using keys... but not move. As soon as I actually click on one the game crashes. It's unplayable like this so I guess until there's and update I'm off elsewhere! Edited August 15, 2012 by Leathd Further testing done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzles Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 So I have experienced this bug as well when the map loads the game would crash. However by a fluke where I believed it should of crashed it did not! Guess what I am missing?! THE RAMP TO GET OFF OF THE SHIP! Maybe that's a hint to this bug? Game didn't crash but obviously I could not get off the ship either. I started using hot keys instead of clicking on the tank which may be an odd reason why it did not crash although this is just me trying something else.[ATTACH=CONFIG]1367[/ATTACH] Well after posting this i accidentally clicked on a soldier instead of hot keying... Game crashed. Hmm very interesting right? I think this is important. I concur with lordfeff that it seems the dropship's exits are probably the cause of the problem here as when they're missing you can scroll through the troops using the mouse wheel (or number buttons) and even use right click to make them change direction but you can't move them off the Dropship by left clicking around it (no pathing appears). If you then try and click on a soldier directly and you crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordfeff Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Sorry if you saw my post. I did a work around and got through 17 ground missions without crashing. I tried to duplicate this effect afterwards however I was not successful as the game crashed once I restarted the game and loaded my save. Seems this one is gonna be tough but I will keep trying to try to get a work around that makes it go away completely. In case you were wondering I removed tilerender.xml and got it to crash less often and you are welcome to try it out. It does have some rendering side effects so you should back it up so you can replace it. Once again sorry if I got anyones hopes up so soon for a permafix. Edited August 16, 2012 by lordfeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I think this is important.I concur with lordfeff that it seems the dropship's exits are probably the cause of the problem here as when they're missing you can scroll through the troops using the mouse wheel (or number buttons) and even use right click to make them change direction but you can't move them off the Dropship by left clicking around it (no pathing appears). If you then try and click on a soldier directly and you crash. I have looked at the spawn submaps and they all have ramps present so it is not as simple as a faulty submap unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwolves Posted August 16, 2012 Author Share Posted August 16, 2012 I just tried walking within the chinook, and still had the same problem, so I don't think it is an exits thing. Then: I have loaded the same saved game, and carried out two more missions without issue. It is a really random bug. Oh, something additional I have noticed is that if you keep clicking around after the freeze, you get sound interference with the music, and I have seen up to three fatal exception info boxes up after tabbing out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 It might be related to a bug where the ramps don't load but it isn't caused by lack of exit ramps, that would allow you to select the troops but not give you anywhere to move them. If the exit ramps are missing then something is failing to load. Maybe that is the clue? If some of the images, for example soldier weaponry or a cursor image, isn't loading either then that may cause a crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordfeff Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I just tried walking within the chinook, and still had the same problem, so I don't think it is an exits thing.Then: I have loaded the same saved game, and carried out two more missions without issue. It is a really random bug. Oh, something additional I have noticed is that if you keep clicking around after the freeze, you get sound interference with the music, and I have seen up to three fatal exception info boxes up after tabbing out of the game. Interesting. I'll look into this when I am home and can play again. I'll try messing with the sound files. Also if you hit L during a bad load you get 7+ error boxes. It might be related to a bug where the ramps don't load but it isn't caused by lack of exit ramps, that would allow you to select the troops but not give you anywhere to move them.If the exit ramps are missing then something is failing to load. Maybe that is the clue? If some of the images, for example soldier weaponry or a cursor image, isn't loading either then that may cause a crash. It's not a Pathing issue as I realized you can't fire your guns during a bad combat load either. I've tried everything map wise to no aval. The dump states a c000005 error which means the computer application I can't tinker with xenonauts.exe is either trying to divide by 0 or allocate data to memory that does not exist maybe null data I don't know for sure. I do light visual studio programming so I know a little but I'm no expert coder or anything. Most Lilkely well need another hot fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynait Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Hello, noticed i had same problem upon 2nd mission (not matter if saved or not), I decided to experiment, start new game, one clue that no one tried... decommission the hunters (not chinooks) right away before saving the game. R edit 1: (pure from start to 2nd mission), did save a few times... but no re-start from saves, on 2nd mission, no crash or errory. Edited August 16, 2012 by rynait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Actually, that's what I did before I noticed the problem in the first place. I had just started using the full squad instead of the Hunter, but in 13.2 it caused crashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claytonchris2k Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Hi Guys Im new to this game and get the same problem sometimes its fine and others it crashes how do i add/sent thr Dev's the Dump file ? Thanks Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Hey you aren't an indie game dev by any chance Chris? Seems to come with the name so just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kourgath Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Hopefully this issue gets resolved quickly it is annoying not being able to do ground combat without it crashing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claytonchris2k Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Hey you aren't an indie game dev by any chance Chris?Seems to come with the name so just curious. I wish i had the intelligence to be so i could remake Police Quest series lol , but nope I'm not sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Thanks for the report. It will be fixed soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claytonchris2k Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Thanks for the report. It will be fixed soon. thank you for listening and dealing with the issue this is one of the reasons I like kick starter projects the Devs care about the game they make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwolves Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 Hey, if it helps, I think I have figured out the trigger. When you have one map mission, then load the other map? I played about three industrial missions fine, then a farm popped up: fatal exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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