winterwolves Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Hey there I find that a squadron of three heavy fighters can be taken down by a single condor every time. The main reason is that the AI is not smart enough to ever do anything but fly the intercept course. Any thoughts on what can be done about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabill Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 That's interesting. When Max_Caine designed the new HF, he was having a lot of trouble managing to take three with a single Condor. (A Corsair could take them, though). What's the trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterLock Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Not only that but Max also tried a condor vs 3 regular fighters.The OP said Heavy Fighter so....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwolves Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 You light afterburners and set a waypoint at about 45 degrees to the heavy fighter squadron. They will aim for the intercept, making their target cones just miss you while you close in. When you are pretty close, you evasive roll (which takes you a long way at high speed) behind them, and it is just a case of gunning them all down from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinHann Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 The OP's kind of showing off teasing to see who will bite, me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwolves Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Nothing wrong with a bit of showing off, is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinHann Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Never implied it, but it's also never bad to mess a bit with kabill the almighty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabill Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 You light afterburners and set a waypoint at about 45 degrees to the heavy fighter squadron. They will aim for the intercept, making their target cones just miss you while you close in. When you are pretty close, you evasive roll (which takes you a long way at high speed) behind them, and it is just a case of gunning them all down from there. Ok, yeah, I can see how you could do that. That's more or less the design intent, I think. Except it's not supposed to be easy with the Condor; you're supposed to need a Corsair to pull it off. The only solution would be to widen the firing arc of the HF's weapons so that you can't slip down the side of them. That, or change the air combat AI, but the former seems like a much simpler solution! @Kevin: "the Almighty"? I think you mean "the-person-who-should-be-writing-his-PhD-thesis-but-is-too-easily-distracted-for-his-own-good" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinHann Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Well mate it could be worse, your name could have been Bruce Knowing my luck you'll turn out to be Bruce indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabill Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Nope, you're safe there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I'm happy and unhappy at the same time that this happened. My original Heavy Fighter proposal was designed to make the player think new ways of defeating them, so I'm pleased at that. What I'm not please is that a Condor was able to so easily dodge a posse of 3 - my testing suggested it would be micro intensive to dodge one HFighter, and near impossible to dodge all three. I'm a little jealous that I wasn't able to do that myself. Oh well, too late now. Only thing that can be done is to experiment and try something new in the Flying Circus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishguy117 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I had this thought about interceptors too. For all their advanced technology the aliens can't figure out a thatch weave, or how to intercept someone properly. You can stay out of range of their guns by turning TOWARDS them. 1 corsair can reliably take out three interceptors without taking a scratch. I think interceptors need a HP boost, they have less than half as much health as scouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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