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@Chris Check Xenonauts-2 bug forums , please don't kill me what about you gonna see there.
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@ChrisI speed run the game and found multiple bugs that need to be fixed
1. After Destroying Cleaner Base - it's still adds +10 Panic lvl each month.
user_panic_levels_goes_crazy_message_spam_multiple-7.json
2. After Completing UFO combat ground missions - for some unknown reason the Panic lvl increases
user_panic_level_before_starting_mission-5.jsonuser_panic_level_increase_after_finishing_mission-4.json 2 files to compare
3. Aliens Brute - also i believe other types of aliens, when they Panic - it's causes Alien Turn = never end Alien Turn issue.
user_alien_brute_fleing_or_panic_bug_game_action_stop-6.json ---- Bug Recorded below:
4. Alien Grenades causing game Crash - forget to save the file - but i got video recording below
5. When Zombie dies to Reaction fire - it causes game to crash
user_zombie_kill_crash_need_fix-2.json
6. Also i dont know if it was intended but when you shutdown multiple UFO's - for Example i shotdown 2 same Tier-1 UFO's - for the first one it's gonna show bonus for decreasing Panic level, but for second one it won't. Same goes for Tier-2 or Tier-3 UFO's, and I believe even beyond that.
user_alien_brute_fleing_or_panic_bug_game_action_stop-6.json user_zombie_kill_crash_need_fix-2.json
7. Invisible UFO spawns and trigger Base Defense Missions with 0 option to defend/destroy flying UFO towards my base to skip base defense - Sad Face
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On 4/12/2022 at 7:07 PM, Oldsmobile said:
I've fantasized about multiplayer for XCOM and Xenonauts too. The problem, i think, is that each human player will take too long. Or the inactive player will become impatient, regardless of how quickly the active player plays. Maybe if a time limit is imposed for each player, then it will work. Hmm... It would be interesting to impose a time limit on the human player even in a single-player setting. (I'm sure all this have been discussed before . . . What hasn't?
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On 4/12/2022 at 8:59 PM, Alienkiller said:I love Singleplayer-Games. There I don´t need to fuss about other Players. The Problem with Multiplayer-Games are that the complete Game get destroyed (Storyline and so on). The Singleplayer Mode is one of the Main-Reason I found and test this Project.
If the Game is stable and fully tested, I have no Problem with it, that an CoOp-Modus like in XCOM 2 comes as an seperate Part in, which isn´t linked with the Singleplayer-Game-Parts.
I don't know how adding extra 1 player to a CO-OP version of a single-player can destroy whole gameplay experience. There is lots of people out there who search beside Single-Player option also CO-OP option of campaings. Literly what Chris can do, when they finish Single Player Project - is add an i call it CO-OP option, because nr.1 It's something new that can make the Xenonauts-2 more popular and also bring more money for Goldhawk Interactive, why? Because, let's say People gonna play campaing 1-2 times and they gonna take break or won't play a game anymore. What i am trying to explain is @Chris need to create an environment where people gonna be able continue to come back to Xenonauts-2 (Twitch/Youtube Streamers) where they gonna have an option to play with Viewers or Subs(whatever), because they are the ones that keep advertizing the game for free, and makes more people buy the game. Game with something new + more options - always good for games.
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21 hours ago, Chris said:
That's fair enough, but ultimately we don't know which of the new features players will use and which ones they won't. I suspect the same could be said for a lot of the changes related to air combat, for example, given many people autoresolve the interceptions - but we just need to make a swathe of improvements and hope that each individual player finds enough new content and mechanical updates related to the way they play the game that X2 becomes a worthwhile update over X1 for the vast majority of those taking part.
Obviously a degree of prioritisation needs to occur too (as you say), but Sentry Guns aren't too much of a time-sink overall. They mostly follow the same rules as the other vehicles so there's not been too much extra work required to get them set up.
Chris i feel like what you should when you finish the game in terms of balancing/maps/gameplay is adding CO-OP for 2 players. Because this game has a potential to play on CO-OP, and could add huge playerbase to this game, because a lot of games for example XCOM 1/2 , Old XCOM and Phoenix Point lack CO-OP mode. This could increase game popularity in the future. All you need to do is add simple buttons for decision making between 2 players on geoscope (for example i want hire 15 enginners), other player press accept button to agree on player decision, and the same for other player, and in combat where i control 4 soldiers and other player another 4 soldiers. Think about it Chris.
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4 hours ago, Gijs-Jan said:
While not something you can easily set in settings, it is something that should be straightforward to mod in!
Because what would "more aliens" mean? In certain missions +4 might be ok, but in others that might overwhelm. It would require a rebalancing of the game that goes way beyond a simple setting you can adjustIt would be good if you guys add in the future add extra difficulty settings = it makes players (hardcore) stick longer in the game - like Zealot or Hardcore. For example = no Training Facilities, No monthly money income(money only from completing missions), or Only Balistic Weapons, Ofcourse increase number of aliens. And ofcourse dont increase number of soldiers - takes too long to finish turns.
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47 minutes ago, Komandos said:
It will be enough for me if the developers create an opportunity (for mods) to increase the size of the xenonaut crew to 20 (24) people.
In "Xenonauts 1" the game allowed to increase the size of the crew of xenonauts to only 16 people. The aliens had no noticeable restrictions.
1 hour ago, Komandos said:1. I like the offensive operation on the entire front (across the entire width of the map).
16 soldiers are not enough for the player to divide them into four squads: LEFT; CENTRAL; RIGHT; MOBILE RESERVE; + POWERFUL FIRE SUPPORT.
This will allow the use of tactics of interaction of small groups in battle.
2. If there are 12 soldiers in the game, then the player is forced to move in one dense group; (or split into two squads). The three independent groups lack the firepower to deal with the large number of aliens.
If there are 16 soldiers in the game, then I can divide the soldiers into three independent units + strong fire support to work across the entire width of the map. (Left squad. Right squad. Central squad. Heavy fire support). But I will need a mobile reserve unit if there are a large number of aliens on the map.
Approximate composition of tactical groups with 20 soldiers:
Tactical group "Left": - 2 shields; 1 assault; 1 machine gun.
Tactical group "Right": - 2 shields; 1 assault; 1 machine gun.
Tactical group "Center": - 2 shields; 1 assault; 1 machine gun.
Strong fire support: 2 snipers; 2 grenade launchers.
Mobile reserve: 1 assault; 1 machine gun, 1 sniper, 1 medic.
3. In the game "Xenonauts 1" I immediately made a crew of 16 people for all types of transport.
I increased the number of aliens by 1.5-2 times.
Increased the viewing range by +10.
Increased the range of weapons by +10.
tactical group "Left": 1 shield, 2 machine guns, 1 sniper.
tactical group "Right": 1 shield, 2 machine guns, 1 sniper.
tactical group "Center": 1 shield, 2 machine guns, 1 sniper.
Heavy fire support: 2 grenade launchers.
Mobile reserve: 2 shields - always strengthened the direction of the main attack.
If I want to fill a UFO with 20-40 aliens, then 16 soldiers are not enough. Fights with more aliens are more intense and dynamic.
The search for 6-12 aliens (half of which are in UFOs) by a team of 12 soldiers is boring and monotonous for me, in which there is little chance of a non-standard situation.
Just give everyone Sniper riffles = problem solved
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@Chris thats one of most sad fixes:
Interceptors no longer gain a permanent armour boost after every combat they take part in.
Imagine 1000 Armor Interceptors
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9 hours ago, Chris said:
@CaptainSPrice thanks for the reports, I'm just working my way through all of it now. Appreciate the time and effort spent playing through to battleships!
@ChrisYou should if you have time check Human Tier 3 Aircrafts don't remember the name but they were Maruders i think or named something else - with relocation and engagments when doing Air battle. Also you planning on adding Tier 3 Laser Cannons and tier 5 Plasma cannons for aircrafts(upgrades)?
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14 minutes ago, Wyldefyre_CP said:
This didn't bother me much in the original game ... coming back to play this now after about a year of being away, one of the first things that strikes me is how much everything costs, both to build and then to contain ... if I'm going to hark on one thing in particular, it'll be the 125,000 needed to maintain the access lift every month. Now I get that you need the access lift, and I'm sure hydraulics can run some $$$ to maintain, but to put it in perspective, 3 aircraft of the most garden variety you can make only cost 240,000 to maintain ... so this elevator is basically running us 1 1/2 aircraft a month in maintenance. Another 10,000 to keep the lights on and the dust swept in the storage area ... ok, it's storing alien stuff, weapons, elements, bodies, if you don't sell them right back out the door, I guess ....
Then there's the cost to hire and then keep your scientists and engineers going .... at 50K per head to hire extras and then $25K a head to keep each happy, there goes another huge chunk of the budget out the door.
I built one base in the first month (seemed insane to try starting a 2nd one, considering the costs). I added a 2nd lab, a 2nd workshop, a 2nd generator and a medical facility. Also built the first trio of aircraft and maybe had one suit of armor done. Lost 5 soldiers and hired 4 more. Did not hire any new scientists or engineers (couldn't afford it). Nothing in the first month increased panic levels in any of the countries so I made the standard payoff at the end of the first month. Looking at the paltry 1,330,000 I have to work with in the beginning of month 2, it's apparent I won't be getting a 2nd base started anywhere this month, either. For some reason, it looks like I'll need a third living quarters area just to have a comfortable rotation of soldiers in and out of the medbay and available to keep 10 man missions going throughout the month and also get maybe all my extra scientists and engineers hired if I'm lucky. I'm also noting it costs twice as much to build a storeroom as it does a hangar, and the same amount of time to build, even though the hangar is 4x larger than the storeroom is. And does that one drop ship take up all that hangar space all by itself? If so, I need to fire the genius pilot who decided to triple park the thing right in the middle of the hangar, when it looks like I ought to be able to squeeze two more aircraft in there with it.
This looks like a complete gripe-fest, and I want to apologize for that. There are A LOT of things about the game I am thoroughly enjoying. I know if your scientists or engineers aren't busy they will make you back some money every hour, but aside from the early engineers playing the role of Maytag repairmen for the first week or two, that's not much of an early to mid game help. I would like to at least get a 2nd base off the ground before the 2nd month's completely gone, but it looks like I'll be lucky to flesh out the first base. Especially when a 2nd access lift is going to murder my budget.
In begin focus on doing as many missions as possible to grew money, i noticed if you do lots of ground missions, it gonna grew monthly economy. Also when you play Combat Missions learn how to use Smoke Grenades(Best grenades ever), and learn how to farm Reflex on soldiers. If you master Reflex farming = Campaing = ez run.
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8 minutes ago, Chris said:
@CaptainSPrice thanks for the reports, I'm just working my way through all of it now. Appreciate the time and effort spent playing through to battleships!
Fix tier 5/6 Alien Ships so i can check later / meanwhile i gonna enjoy streaming Company of Heroes on youtube
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@Chris Brother Chris i finished Xenonauts-2 Run since im unable progress further because Battleship OP and I can't aquire technology in order to counter them, because Tier 5 and Tier 6 UFO - unable to finish them. Since i reached lvl where i can't kill Battleships - i decided to stop here. Save files below:
user_3x_tier_2_dropship_memes-4.json
user_aircraft_bug_stuck_next_to_base-6.json
user_cant_build_plasma_riffle-9.json
user_dead_alien_aircrafts_flying-8.json
user_tier_5_ufo_cant_teleport_in_fix-3.json
user_harvester_tier_6_need_fix-5.json
My Findings:
1. I don't know if that was intended, but after soldier death - The Main armor that soldier was wearing dissapears from inventory(soldier body was laying on the ground)
2. When you try transfer items from Storage room between bases and game says pay 400$ - game doesnt take my money and transfer for free.
3. Trying to press button called Commence Project (Build Plasma Riffle) = Game won't build Plasma Riffle
4. All Base upgrades don't want my $ when i purchase them
5. On first run i killed Interceptors, but i wasnt able to kill Main Alien Aircraft, on second try Ghost Interceptors appear
6.Tier 6 UFO(Harvester) not accessable = can't aquire technology to progress further
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7. Alien Fusion Grenade - don't know if this range was intended or not but it has 7x7 title range:
8. Enginners produce 3x Skyhawks / 3x DragonFly Dropships into single 2x2 Hangar - like what? + also game don't need $ to build them, they are for free.
9. Aircrafts getting stuck next to base after reloading save file
10. No description in Xenopedia about Stealth Armor
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@Komandos i think in begin game should be punishable, later when scaling - harder and rewardable simple
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23 minutes ago, squeezechart said:
after my last mission, my MARS is on casualty list. Is that intentional?
I think it is OK - because you atleast you know you lost MARS-1/2 in action with Date description.
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On 11/2/2021 at 7:07 AM, Komandos said:
On YouTube, I watched a video of the latest version of the Xenonauts 2 game. A squad of soldiers is forced to walk in a dense crowd so that the combined firepower is enough to destroy 1-2 aliens who ran out from close range. An increase in the range of visibility and an increase in the range of weapons will allow soldiers to disperse and control a wider front of the map with their help.
Well this strategy is called = Farm reflex , throw smoke nade, let them come close,each soldiers do reaction fire, no matter if they hit or miss (praying for misses, because more people can do reaction fire) = don't care, you know when each of your soldiers do enough reaction fire to receive +1 or +2 on reflex stats, you do regular shots, no matter if they hit or not, still counts to +1 or +2 Accuracy stats, you left only with farming Strenght and Time units, where you can just simply farm by running on the map back and forth. - That's how you farm stats in Xenonauts-2.
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My personal opinion, everything that appears on the map should be caused by UFO's , Change every region on the geoscope from max 100 to 200, soo Devs can implement more options (number doesnt have to be always on 100 max, because it's a game but when that number 200 gonna be bother people, Devs can always change to %(100% ofcourse) instead of seeing 200. So devs can also implement mechanics where completing UFO crashsite reduce panic lvl, like in xenonauts 1, Also increase number of regions soo geoscope won't be look like a nerfed version of Xenonauts-1 Geoscope. I always say this if people have more options = it's better for the game and people who enjoy playing Xenonauts. Content = nr 1.
Literly devs the can set regions on starting 100 points = averege, and players throught campaing can work hard on reducing panic lvl, that rewards them with more income from Monthly Meetings, not the mention with that @Chris can implement more game mechanics/options way easier, because i feel like Developers limited themselfes with that magic 100 number as max. It's a game, nothing is real.
Another thing about what happend between past / future aircrafts war, because i have 2000 hours in Xenonauts-1, not the mention 75% of my gameplay i spend playing on highest difficulty if i be honest i feel like aircraft battles are kinda not balanced well.
Nr.1. I like idea of new 2x2 hangars that can have max 3 aircrafts, because it gives an player an option to have more space on placing more structures.
Nr.2. My personal opinion removing 1x2 Hangar was a bad idea, because it limits options for players, for example i want to have 2 skyhawks instead of 1, so i can simply build 2 1x2 hangars to fill them, instead i need to build another 2x2 hangar to have another skyhawk.
Nr.3. All Hangars / Aircrafts should to have a system where i can simply assing them. For example i have 5 1x2 Hangar. I build 2x2 Hangar soo simply assing those 3 aircrafts from 1x2 to 2x2 and then demolish 1x2, co i can simply make more space for 2x2
Nr.4. When building aircraft from enginner menu - add an option on what hangar i can assing aircraft under construction
Nr.5. Make 2x2 Hangars researchable and upgradable where from enginners -> Base Upgrade -> when research it shows as option to build 2x2 Hangars(make more expensive ofcourse)
Nr.6. Bring old HP/Armor aircrafts, also if i recall correctly, because I don't remember well, it was called Aircraft Generators, and combine it with current aircraft slots/system, more options, more fun , more enjoyable, where players can edit stuf, instead of feeling with being limited with not many options.
Nr.7. Nerf some of Big alien UFO's where i can simply flank them with aircrafts soo i can use my amazing microing skills to Flank + shutdown, instead alien aircrafts have 360 degree cannons like what?
Another option what devs should change is add 2 extra options to soldiers Armor/even aliens armor = For example % chance to penetrate armor, and % to damage reduction. Because when I play Xenonauts-2 on highest difficulty and see Alien sniper Plasma hit soldiers for 250 Damage, i can't even imagine being hit by fusion riffle. I'm asking myself how my best maxed soldier with for example 100 stats on everything with best possible armor can survive a single shot from alien plasma sniper riffle. Even Giving that charcter extra shield wont stop him from instantly dying. I liked Xenonauts-1 armor system where it was reducing incoming damage, but in Xenonauts-2 we have armor system that it's gonna give soldier extra HP for soldier, 0 bonuses for damage reduction, like 1-2 shots = soldier dead + depends on game difficulty. My gameplay look like this - if my soldier gonna get hit, i simply leave him behind in the corner of the map, because it know if he gonna get hit again = dead, it becomes useless to me, and i don't wanna lose dude with best stats, and i am not gonna use save scum option, where i need to waste another 2-3 min to reload save to avoid that shot, also i noticed aliens AI like to target soldiers with low HP soo yeah.
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I'm atm doing campaing on V.22.3 but i found few interesting bugs:
1. Tier 5 UFO, When inside UFO, teleporters wont let me teleport to second Floor (can't finish the mission) (screenshot nr 1)
2. When you press inside mission on right top corner Abort mission button + when you return to geoscope from mission all Secondary armor dissapears from inventory, i had 10 platesuits, im guessing it happends to all secondary armor(screenshot nr 4)
3. When equiping torpedos to tier 1 aircrafts after research , their armor increase with every battle vs UFO (screenshot 3), please dont nerf it, it's too glorious xD.
4. When soldier has items added to belt or backpack, imagine items from left to right, slot nr 1-4 Taken, slot nr 5 empty, when i try sometimes move item from backpack to belt it's kinda hard to put items to slot nr 5. I had to manually remove item from slot 4 to put but without any issue to slot 5. It's kinda hard put to words, but definetly there is still some issue with items when moving between belt or backpack. You guys need to test it when drag and drop with other items to detect issue, it's kinda hard to describe what causing this issue.
5. When aircrafts activate Afterburner(Speed Boost on retreat). They should move outside battle zone, instead they return to middle point of the battle and simply dance with other enemy aircrafts(Screenshot number 2)
6. Laser Shotgun sound too loud - my ears nearly died to those laser shotgun shot sounds
7. When i click on engineering this wonderfull button called Base Upgrades = it uses Alien Alloys/Components or Alienium, but it doesn't consume money, for example i had 1.000.000 dolars in bank, upgrade cost 500.000, clicked on upgrade, it used resourses, but did not use cash.
I'm still gonna continue campaing on V.22.3 because i dont wanna just be like new patch, another campaing... ,because my brain gonna melt.
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Gas shit out of the aliens
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4 minutes ago, MrAlex said:
This was an abuse when they gave 100% protection even if the target was in an adjacent tile. Now it is an additional protective feature for a skilled commander.
You mean mechanics where i throw smoke nades at aliens and i dont need any other Stun tools xD
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48 minutes ago, MrAlex said:
There is a third option. Careful reconnaissance and killing of aliens in the distance, or using shelter and smoke grenades to avoid damage while getting closer to the enemy.
Smoke nade spam = ABUSE
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May I ask you something all of you? Why we actually talking about Button - Game is designed to 2 way of combat --- Nr 1 - Run into enemy + Get shot or shot enemy(where 50% chance end up in miss) = Die or Lucky survive. Nr 2 --- Farming Reflex on your soldiers where you create ambush and your soldiers Suppress/kill alien with 0 casualty on your side.
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i wonder if @Chris read what is happening here xD
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How to win Xenonauts-2 = Reflex Abuse 200 IQ
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@MrAlex = Usage of Machine guns = +2 Accuracy on soldier straight away, not the mention you suppress everything
Perfect Machine Gunner = 80 Reflex +++
Perfect Sniper = 90 Reflex +++
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2 minutes ago, Alienkiller said:
Have already adjusted my Post above to explain why it´s so important for the Game to have it from beginning on. I see the Shitstorm form Causal-Players / Standard-Players why we give promisses etc. for cool new Features / Improvements for X2 from beginning on and renage the ones promise then.
So cancel that Idea realy fast from your Mind. Such important Features, Integrations, Improvements from beginning on are a must have, which tried to be implemented in X1 from Modders. Now we have integrated that after a very long Process and nobody with Brain will cancel that cool Feature from beginning on.
Im not gonna call having armor from the start a feature. Only a boost.
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[23.1] 6 Bugs need to be fixed - some of them effect late game
in Xenonauts-2 Bug Reports
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If you fix these Late game bugs - i gonna speedrun the game on highest difficulty. You should also check all other mine videos, because there were pink objects. I am a player with very big abusive gameplay style. You know, figuring out how AI works and literly exploit everything into my advantage. Anyway no point for me testing version V23.2 because of issues with Panic levels on the map. It's simply impossible to test late game. I am gonna wait till you gonna release V23.3.