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It can be the game bug which ppl talk about. Endless enemy turn with reapers.

and next get pistol miss shield bug too :)

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Please name the "some manufactures".. i erased special characters but maybe some left.

Found that characters.. but i couldn't find #### weapon. If i can get it i will fire the hotfix 5!

Oh. I think I know what weapon Kubi is talking about. If I'm remembering the tech I researched correctly, it's the nextgen vehicle cannon. Also, glad you caught that tech tree bug even though it required a restart. I couldn't figure out why I wasn't getting access to new air missiles/torpedoes after capturing all the specialists I possibly could (which at the time included Caesans and Sebillians). Also, are Sebillian specialists supposed to only be red? Just curious, seeing as how the Caesans have different colors for their specialists, which at least tells us there's something new, although, this may not matter for me. :P Whenever I see a specialist my first instinct is to just stun gas it into a coma. xD Also, what level of stun tech do we need to take reapers and xenomorphs alive as they are highly resistant to stun gas and after capturing live Caesan and Sebi medics I didn't have the option to research any new stun tech. Or do I have to fight Androns to get that tech? If so...sheesh. Finally, Sebis still seem to have some balance problems. Their snipers are still disturbingly accurate, and it doesn't mesh with their lore (what with the lizards being nearsighted and all), yet they'll hit most targets unless you're at the most outer range of their weapon and in cover. Oh, and the Blood Scatter (or whatever it's called, it seems to be the MG version of the Blood weapons)...well, it may have been the sebi using it, but the weapon is incredibly accurate, and I'd argue more accurate than sniper rifles, and with a five round burst it's overpowered, especially when all five shots hit (and the damage a single shot alone can deal is...very high). Still, the progress you've made is a amazing and I'm actively watching this forum for the newest hotfix and to alert you if I find any bugs or if there seems to be an especially major balance problem. Keep up the great work Drages.

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Hey Squaddie Perseus! Nice points u have here..

1. I checked the first kinetic cannons all strings but there is no reason for ####.. i think i need a save game.

2. Sebillians specialists are same color.. as lore they will be more intelligent race of them. But they wear different armour.. hard to notice i know.. I didnt want to make a rainbow reptillian race to be honest.. you do it right.. if its red, throw stuns :)

3. Next stun gas tech will come with next generation alien weapons.. probably will start with corvette. You dont need alive melee aliens yet. dont panic.

4. I made sebs acc lower already but maybe not enough.. ofcourse it could be about specific weapon like heavy plasma before. But are you sure about blood scatter? Its a late game weapon as my aiprop file says :).. where did you find it? Which seb got it? At guard you should only see blood rifle..

Please carefull at end mission reports.. if you see any alien soldier/warrior at scouts or warriors at corvette, there should be a problem. We know that ufo crews got some problems, sometimes ufos got aliens that we didnt put :)... please report that kind of things and send me a save...

Androns will come with their surprises.. did you get any weapon sergeant yet? Do u have spear or laser weapons?

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i had a sebilian in full armor(except helmet ) in a light scout , fucker was a pain to take out with basic gear

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i had a sebilian in full armor(except helmet ) in a light scout , fucker was a pain to take out with basic gear

Do you have a photo of him.. what was saying at mission report as captured/killed units? Was he green or red?

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Hey Squaddie Perseus! Nice points u have here..

1. I checked the first kinetic cannons all strings but there is no reason for ####.. i think i need a save game.

2. Sebillians specialists are same color.. as lore they will be more intelligent race of them. But they wear different armour.. hard to notice i know.. I didnt want to make a rainbow reptillian race to be honest.. you do it right.. if its red, throw stuns :)

3. Next stun gas tech will come with next generation alien weapons.. probably will start with corvette. You dont need alive melee aliens yet. dont panic.

4. I made sebs acc lower already but maybe not enough.. ofcourse it could be about specific weapon like heavy plasma before. But are you sure about blood scatter? Its a late game weapon as my aiprop file says :).. where did you find it? Which seb got it? At guard you should only see blood rifle..

Please carefull at end mission reports.. if you see any alien soldier/warrior at scouts or warriors at corvette, there should be a problem. We know that ufo crews got some problems, sometimes ufos got aliens that we didnt put :)... please report that kind of things and send me a save...

Androns will come with their surprises.. did you get any weapon sergeant yet? Do u have spear or laser weapons?

1) Sadly, I did a dumb and deleted all my pre-hotfix 3 saves. Sorry about that. When I get back to that point with the latest hotfix I'll see about getting you a save. Again, sorry. Should have thought of that. Just saw that the hotfix needed a new start and...yeah. XP I'll be more careful in the future.

2) Yeah. Stun gas. Lots of it.

3) Good to know.

4) I believe it was labeled as a blood scatter in the end mission screen and I believe it was used by a Sebi Warrior on a Corvette. And there was more than one. I actually managed to win that mission, but I had to drive my Defender right up to each warrior and shoot them point blank because none of my troops could get close or deal enough damage before the Sebi regenned all the damage done to it. Again, this is me not being careful and just installing the new hotfix. If this happens again I'll get you a save. And I'm sure it was a warrior, at least. Oh, and what makes this weirder is that earlier I had taken down a Caesan corvette that had soldiers on it, but that was as far as they went, so I can't explain why a Sebi corvette had warriors, which I could only kill using my tank, and come to think of it.....that Corvette's crew compliment was non-combants, guards, a couple of specialists, and two or three warriors.

In regards to Androns and weapon sergeants, I did have lasers and spear weapons. Oh, and speaking of Spear Weapons, I did some testing with them and they're kind of useless. They don't penetrate enough armor (kind of defeating their purpose, or I am not using AP weapons properly due to a misconception on my part?) to be useful against aliens usually resistant to ballistics and they deal the same amount of damage as the nextgen weapons. Note that I tested the spear weapons against Caesans and Sebis, and the only one I found useful was the cannon because it just had such a high amount of damage and could do minor AOE damage. Again, maybe I'm misusing them but at current Spear weapons don't seem to do enough to make them an upgrade from nextgen weapons.

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looking at photos , he was def a warrior and not a soldier

Is there a way to attach the photos to a forum post? It would also help me confirm if I ran into Sebi warriors on a corvette.

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Hmmm..

I checked the seb corvette crew and there is weapon officer with bloodscatter.. but its very low chance and he should be in command room!... you said u killed it with tank.. so you somehow go inside the command room with tank, or that officer goes to take air.. was he red or green?

Soldiers are normal at corvette but warriors not... just if u see him, send me a save game!

I am happy that u go so far so fast.. i will check spear weapons but i know they are low damage because they are ignoring resistance.. they should hit a bit more to sebs..

Your feedbacks about specialists are very important for me because its totally new and mod depends on them. Its very important that players can find them, catch them alive and continue to the research chain..

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looking at photos , he was def a warrior and not a soldier
Is there a way to attach the photos to a forum post? It would also help me confirm if I ran into Sebi warriors on a corvette.

LOL.. save the game, just start the game with Xenonauts_gc_editor.exe and press "V".. u will win.. and tell me which alien corpses u got..

OR play with steam, press f12 to take ss..

U can put pictures here or click this picture and use the website to put quaility pics here..

archelon.jpg

by the way i am working crazy on xenopedia pictures as u see :P

Edited by drages

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OMG OMG... its an officer!!!

hahahahahah i laughed badly here realy...

He should be at command room for sure.. and did u kill it? HOW did u kill it? He has 350 hp and 85 kinetic resistance.. i dont count regeneration.. hahahaha.. and with crazy guns..

I dont know why but i thought that officers were more endgame aliens.. but they are not :) i will nerf him..

I still cant believe u could kill him..

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no no , not a officer , no helmet , he was a tough bastard tho , no idea what he was doing at my 3d mission

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LOL.. save the game, just start the game with Xenonauts_gc_editor.exe and press "V".. u will win.. and tell me which alien corpses u got..

OR play with steam, press f12 to take ss..

U can put pictures here or click this picture and use the website to put quaility pics here..

archelon.jpg

by the way i am working crazy on xenopedia pictures as u see :P

I'll keep the editor in mind if this happens again. And nice Xenopedia image there.

Hmmm..

I checked the seb corvette crew and there is weapon officer with bloodscatter.. but its very low chance and he should be in command room!... you said u killed it with tank.. so you somehow go inside the command room with tank, or that officer goes to take air.. was he red or green?

Soldiers are normal at corvette but warriors not... just if u see him, send me a save game!

I am happy that u go so far so fast.. i will check spear weapons but i know they are low damage because they are ignoring resistance.. they should hit a bit more to sebs..

Your feedbacks about specialists are very important for me because its totally new and mod depends on them. Its very important that players can find them, catch them alive and continue to the research chain..

It wasn't a weapons officer. He was green, and there were two or three of them, all holding the line outside the ship and armed with blood scatters, firing two fire round bursts a turn. And I know Spear weapons are supposed to deal lower damage because they ignore resistances, but maybe I just hadn't used them enough to see a proper difference. The Spear problem may be me and that fact that they're an early game AP weapon.

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here it is , i didnt think to take a photo oh him ingame when i saw him

Looking at that dossier, I can safely say I was up against three Sebi officers on the corvette, all armed with blood scatter weapons (I remember the in-game sebis having helmets along with armor).

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i got sibilian officer in my first corvette :), and some soldiers oneshoot my soldiers with blood weapons Heheh, i think i need more than jackal to corvette

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Good news, there is nothing wrong about your download or files..

Strange news, i checked the files and tried some tests.. yes at your save i could t see the "warrior xeno"..

I restarted game and made an attack to a light scout full of warrior xenos. After i go out of the Ufo i saw them ad we fight.. at next turns there was no problem, just some frame missing.. then i wanted to take ss and started the game with steam.. the aliens was there but when i finished my turn and aliens played, again they were invisible.. i restarted game and the result was same.. Then i opened my save "before" the GC and started the GC again.. i played without any problem but again when i restart the game and load the GC file, the warrior xenos get invisible again..

So if something works sometimes and dont work sometimes, there is nothing much to do..

There is 2 solution for this:

1. Never, ever, reload when you fight against them.. (Ironman ftw)

2.i can handle this to add an info about this aliens to the xenopedia "They have very good camouflage Technic which can hide their exact view, only a hardly visible shadow.." and we are all fine :)

Thanks. Two more things.

1. When soldiers are next to buildings sometimes they get partially covered up by the buildings (not bad but still a bit annoying:p) That bug should be present in that same save but if not then I'll get you another one.

2. When adding your X-division logo to characters you forgot the Mechanic/Engineer guy and the Quartermaster/goods guy

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no no , not a officer , no helmet , he was a tough bastard tho , no idea what he was doing at my 3d mission

Still officers are overpowered for their place.. just i am waiting evidence.. send me a save if u see that guy again..

To JurisDocta:

The wall thing is the main games problem and i think they handled it with newer versions.. i am just waiting them to become stable to use with this mod..

Mechanic and quartermaster... good to say.. i will look them up :)

To Squaddie Perseus:

I checked every file but its impossible to have 3 warrior at corvette at coding.. but just send me a save so i can pinpoint the problem.. and if its a bug, we can discuss it with kabill..

To asierus24:

They are preparing u to harridans :)

Edited by drages

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Still officers are overpowered for their place.. just i am waiting evidence.. send me a save if u see that guy again..

To JurisDocta:

The wall thing is the main games problem and i think they handled it with newer versions.. i am just waiting them to become stable to use with this mod..

Mechanic and quartermaster... good to say.. i will look them up :)

To Squaddie Perseus:

I checked every file but its impossible to have 3 warrior at corvette at coding.. but just send me a save so i can pinpoint the problem.. and if its a bug, we can discuss it with kabill..

To asierus24:

They are preparing u to harridans :)

*Sighs* Right. I'll get a save next time this happens. Again, I did a dumb and got over enthusiastic about the hotfix. -_- Will keep an eye out for such situations in the and take screenshots as well.

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another scout , same thing

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or is he a elite , because of the red things ?

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Those are specialists. I don't know what their stats are like though. Still, none of them are officers. The highest they seem to have gone for you is being comparable to soldiers.....which would still be a problem because Sebi soldiers have high ballistic resistance from what I've seen.

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Those are specialists. I don't know what their stats are like though. Still, none of them are officers. The highest they seem to have gone for you is being comparable to soldiers.....which would still be a problem because Sebi soldiers have high ballistic resistance from what I've seen.

There is no soldiers in scouts.. put an ss of the mission report, we will see who they are..

Specialists are weak, not tougher then others.. but i see that many aliens in ufo.. i changed it but after the hotfix 5..

btw can u please test the "shotguns lowering alien TU" .. i will eat something.. i couldn't stand up for hours.. its like group chat here :P

HOTFIX 5 is UP

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