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If you send out a plane, then transfer it between two bases while it's out, it won't be able to land anywhere.
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Thank you for that. Please let me know of your results.
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Have confirmed that this will eventually be moddable, but for now it is hard coded. Thanks to Chris and Light Gemini for this information.
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Ah, that further clarifies on what Chris said. He was kind enough to mention that this will eventually be moddable.
Until then, I guess my friend will look into modding other areas of the game.
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Yeah. More often, messengers were fed to household pets.
One possibility, is if you couldn't set how long the grenade was primed for. You could have it that all grenades automatically prime for the end of the second turn. That would be a good way to simulate "baking" a grenade, would mean that throwing it immediately would give aliens (or your own guys, if it fell at your own feet) a chance to duck for cover. If you messed up and don't have the TU to throw it, you can throw it next turn with a better chance of blasting the aliens before they move (at more risk to yourself).
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If you crank up the sight range of the aliens, the AI gets rather messed up. The aliens don't seem to understand how to take cover from such long ranges, and desperately scramble towards the edge of the map, hoping to hide in the dense blackness of the Fog of War. They also don't shoot at you.
Anyone know how to get the aliens to be willing to shoot from longer ranges? They seem to take cover properly when they're at shooting range.
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Friend managed to get the desired effect by changing grenades to explosive charges. Still some problems with that which mightn't be solvable, without the main code being changed.
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Gemini was very right, about long sight ranges messing with the AI. Need to work out how to get aliens to fire from range and take cover properly (their idea of taking cover at the moment, is stepping into the impenetrable blackness of the fog of war--which is now too scarce for that ghostly tactic to work).
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Gotten it working by converting the grenades to explosives. One problem is, you can't use them via the quick slot any more. Another, is that you have a lot of options for exactly how long the grenade is primed (though that's technologically possible).
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Is is possible to put a delay on grenade detonation, through modding? I was wondering if it would be possible to have grenades explode at the end of the player's turn, or possibly the end of the alien's.
I'd also like to ask if modding the throwing arc and range of grenades is feasible.
I and a friend are attempting to mod some features, and we're wondering if there's much hope in editing the grenades.
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The way grenades work, is you throw them from cover, shout, "Frag out!" then duck. Currently, this is impossible, since grenades explode as soon as they land.
I would like to ask to make it so that grenades don't explode immediately--or at least, that it can be modded so they do not.
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Yes I--...Oops. I was sure I had enabled the experimental builds. That explains why the Grenades feel the same. When I test the new build, I'll let you know if I can still spam the grenades.If you are able to throw grenades the full length of the map I have a feeling you are not using the latest experimental build - have you opted in to the experimental builds? What version number is displayed on the top right of the Xenonauts launcher? -
Mm, the weapon and engagement ranges need to be altered. The guy who first tested these numbers is testing weapon ranges, AI, and how the two are linked.
Larger maps would certainly be nice. The current ones have seemed all right in my tests thus far, and probably won't need enlarging. You can't hide by remaining distant, in the daytime--but you can use cover and buildings to surprise one and other. More houses, for this reason, would be nice.
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I increased the base sight range to 60. Now, when it's daylight, you can see across the map, as you might expect. The dynamic of the game changes quite a bit, my machine gunner and sniper both have become more key to victory.
For some maps, this also gives the feeling of dropping into a hot LZ during Vietnam... If a number of aliens are within sight of your chopper, you'll need to make a run for cover or fight your way out. In general, cover becomes far more important, and you find yourself dashing between it since the fog of war isn't all pervading.
For sight penalties, I tried setting the range to 52. And for bonuses, I tried 68. The person who suggested this to me was using a base of 56, 52 for penalized vision, and 60 for improved vision.
I recommend that you all try editing your vision ranges to something like these numbers, to see what you think of it. I feel it has really improved the game for me.
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I've tested the stun grenade... it hasn't changed from the previous version. I've found, just as before, that the most optimal strategy appears to be throwing dozens of stun grenades at every alien, from any given distance. I can throw grenades almost the full length of the map, and I can carry loads of them per soldier, so even if the chance is apparently 1%, I tend to get them close enough to stun the aliens, or at least cut out their routes of escape and movement.
If I had done this with the guns, I would probably have suppressed or even injured them, but I wouldn't take them out so often.
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Maybe the grenade range has been lowered enough that they're not useful, now. Before, I found them pretty useful... but insanely time consuming to use.Ah the flares. I've had to use them twice in 19.5. With the grenade range issue I couldn't throw them far enough to make much of a difference and, as mentioned, they don't last long. The problem is that with infinite amounts of them, you'd want to avoid evening up the human eyesight with that of the aliens.As for Stun Grenades, I think they were better than guns in the previous build, and probably still are. To be fair, Military CS gas is nasty enough to stop a bear, so it's not unreasonable. But then, the guns might be a bit too inaccurate.
It would be good if there was a small chance of aliens surviving lethal damage, also (that's part of the reason I always use stun grenades, since guns seem to always be lethal).
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Perhaps the flares could last somewhat longer? At the current setting, flares need to be thrown constantly--which is a bit time consuming and uninteresting.
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Not sure if someone mentioned this earlier in the thread, but: On the subject, I'm not sure Generals and Majors would be out in the field fighting alien scouts, either.
If we restricted ourselves to military ranks which would be dealing with frontline enemies, what would we have?
Modding Grenades: Delay and Throwing Arc?
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It's quite likely they plan to make that aspect moddable. I've found that to be the case with engagement ranges, at least.
Regardless, you've come up with a great fix. Come to think of it... couldn't we reduce the timer to 1, making it so grenades can only be primed in one way (pulling the pin and releasing the spoon)? Even so, 2 might be a better setting, to avoid people running out of TUs and blowing themselves up.
One thing of particular note, is that you can re-set grenade timers. So, you bake a grenade for a couple of turns, then you can set it back to 6 or whichever. Not a big issue, but worth mentioning.
Actually, that might be useful... If someone keeps re-setting their grenade to 2, that'd be a fair simulation of pulling the pin, but keeping a hold on the spoon. Which is handy if they decide not to throw the grenade.
I forgot to check whether you could fully disarm an explosive after activating it. Will have to check that.