Shoot line issue

[Amiga4ever]

Isn't possible to make this shoot line more straight? Like we see soldier is above but is still on line of fire

[Chris]

That soldier fills a full tile (despite the selection circle, the tile is square), so that's actually correct. The shot line is always going to pass through the orange cell.

[Skitso]

Can you do anything to inconsistent corner LoS rules?

[Amiga4ever]

I know it fill whole title but bias shoot should be possible without blocking like it was in OG.

[Burzmali]

I think the bigger problem is that I'm pretty sure that you'd still have a blocking condition if the Seb was 2 squares lower. Currently, it is 3 squares above horizontal, I haven't checked 100%, but I've noticed that the LOS seems to pass through that adjacent square any time the target is above that line.

[Chris]

We're looking into some of the stranger LOS issues at the moment. It's just the one pictured isn't actually an error

[Burzmali]

We're looking into some of the stranger LOS issues at the moment. It's just the one pictured isn't actually an error

Is the game actually using those 1/9th tile squares to draw the LOS or does it only draw those for the player's benefit?

[Caaygun]

Even if it does sprites are not sensitive of the little squares it seems. Can their spectres be so set I wonder? to enable 3x3 blockage maps in the tile. it would nonetheless be much overhead probably.

[Amiga4ever]

Chris what about this one?

^^^

I think still many tiles need to be set to not block shoots

Edited April 23, 2014 by Amiga4ever

[Gauddlike]

That is because you are shooting through a window that gives some cover.

Looking at the window image it should probably be a lower amount of cover than shown though.

[Burzmali]

Another problem:

Roofs don't provide cover, at least on the desert landingship map. I've got a sniper on the roof being hit with rounds clipping through the scenery pretty flagrantly. Unless these buildings are for little people, my sniper should be getting hit while crouched at 3 squares from the edge, unless he moonlights as the center for the Knicks.

[Muskrat]

It looks like the soldier blocking that shot is the crouched soldier, not the one the cursor is on. I which case, it looks correct to me. Can't read block % though.

[Amiga4ever]

Muskrat crouched soldier doesn't affect shoot anymore. Anyway look at the orange square - it tell what is block the shoot

[Hairyscreech]

Would going back to the square Xcom style marker cubes rather than the new style cylinder markers be a solution to this?

[Muskrat]

Muskrat crouched soldier doesn't affect shoot anymore. Anyway look at the orange square - it tell what is block the shoot

I'm pretty sure it's only if you are adjacent to the crouched soldier, which the shooter in the image is not.

Edited April 24, 2014 by Muskrat

[Amiga4ever]

On my picture standing soldier above blocked the shoot not the croutched one

[Muskrat]

On my picture standing soldier above blocked the shoot not the croutched one

The small line show's the tile pattern the projectile takes. If you mark this pattern out on the map, you see the projectile clearly intrudes in the crouched soldier's space, and doesn't touch the standing soldier.

At least that's what it looks like to me. Do you have this as a save? Can you post an image where you moved the crouched soldier out of the way? I'll play with this myself this evening.

Maybe it'd be better if the shot line just put a small block in each tile the projectile passes through, instead of the continuous line approach. It would make it more clear where you're shooting.

Edited April 24, 2014 by Muskrat

[kabill]

I'm fairly certain that the line drawn by the game isn't just a UI thing but actually how the game calculates shooting trajectory. So, in fact, if the line shows that it is clipping a tile slightly, it is actually clipping the tile and the shot must pass through that tile in order to hit.

As such, the standing soldier is definately blocking the shot. If there was any doubt, the orange square at the bottom of the soldier's tile is indicating that there's an obstacle.

[Muskrat]

Nope, you're right. I just played around with it.

I'm playing in V21 Stable. The crouched soldier blocked 13% and the standing soldier blocked 16%. That seems reasonable for shooting past someone.