Living in a Save-Scum Paradise

[tirlimpimpim]

Hi,

I was wondering, would it be possible to include a Save-Scum option for players? I mean two additional save games for beginning and end of each turn? I mean those who do it, will do it anyway, this would only save some time and manual labour

Cheers

[Gorlom]

Hi,

I was wondering, would it be possible to include a Save-Scum option for players? I mean two additional save games for beginning and end of each turn? I mean those who do it, will do it anyway, this would only save some time and manual labour

Cheers

I dont understand what you mean. as long as you do not play ironman you can savescum as much as you want?

[Newfr]

I dont understand what you mean. as long as you do not play ironman you can savescum as much as you want?

He is a save-scummer and requesting an auto save option for begining and end of each GC turn (in 2 different slots). Because he either forget to do it himself or just lazy =)

In my opinion this is a useless idea or you need 4 slots for some kind of rotation. For example you did a wrong move and aliens killed some of your soldiers in their turn. With manual saving you'll save only if alien turn outcome is ok with you while game actually doesn't care and will overwrite your save file anyway. So auto save "begining of turn" will be overwriten with that bad result and your "end of turn" save probably useless since you spent all/most TUs and can't do much to prevent exactly the same outcome. Kind of fail.

Edited February 2, 2014 by Newfr

[Gorlom]

While enableing savescumming might be confortable for you it is likely a feature that if the regular gamer is presented with will greatly reduce his or her enjoyment of the game merely because it exists.

It's a psychological trap that is probable to be used by more players than would enjoy it just because it is there and it is "comfortable", even if it results in the game being less fun.

I would strongly advise against such a feature.

[tirlimpimpim]

He is a save-scummer and requesting an auto save option for begining and end of each GC turn (in 2 different slots). Because he either forget to do it himself or just lazy =)

Newfr,

One could say its laziness, however its only natural to implement such feature (or quick save, quick load) since saving and loading inside GC is already permitted. As with actual implementation, yes, just having 2 slots might be no sufficient, but Im here to propose the general idea

While enableing savescumming might be confortable for you it is likely a feature that if the regular gamer is presented with will greatly reduce his or her enjoyment of the game merely because it exists.

It's a psychological trap that is probable to be used by more players than would enjoy it just because it is there and it is "comfortable", even if it results in the game being less fun.

I would strongly advise against such a feature.

Dear Gorlom,

First of all, you define "fun" as only one possible ways of playing the game, and discard any notion that other players might be playing a different style. For example I usually play on hardest settings and save-scum not to just advance in the game, but approach "perfect" scenario. I usually spend way more time exploring different possibilities, when just browsing through the game on normal mode. Your argument that other players will somehow be corrupted by the mere presence of such option is in the neighbourhood of national-socialist or evangelical mentality, so you might just relax a little and give a more credit to the people who will be playing this game.

Cheers

[Gorlom]

I guess I should have tacked on "for them" as clarification at the end of "even if it results in the game being less fun". I didn't think I needed it because I assumed of the earlier sentances clarified that part.

You have severely misunderstood what I was trying to say. I did not define fun in any way, i do not discard any notion that other people may be playing the game differently. I was under the impression that I made it clear I considered your way of playing the game with savescumming to be entirely legit and just as valid as any other way to play the game. Apparently I did not.

I'm not sure that my opinion is anything but selfreflective. I know for a fact how I play the game, and what the possibility of easily accessed "comfort" does to my playstyle. I also know that I find it less fun in the long run.

I do not know if other people that play like me are as introvert and reflect as much on how they play as I do. I assume there is a large portion that probably doesn't.

PS: did you call me a nazi?