Msvknight Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 (edited) So what kind of ons do you want 1 fighter 2 Bomber [Foxtrot] Edited September 5, 2013 by Msvknight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoFourDelta Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 There's not a single bomber on the Xenonauts' side in the entire game. All of them are air-superiority fighters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishantil Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 In which case, I'd like an F-15A Eagle, please. Although you could probably argue for an F-15C (they were in testing by the start of the game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashMan Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 F14. The Avalanche is a modified AIM-54 and these were made for hte F-14 anyway. Plus the F-14 was brand new then. Fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elydo Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'll take a YF-19 Excalibur. Or are we supposed to be remaining plausible? : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishantil Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) With or without the Fold Booster? Edited September 6, 2013 by Ishantil typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elydo Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 With or with? I'll go with with. : P Not sure how useful a fold booster would be in atmo though, and it not only blocks the pulse laser but would add significant lateral drag. (I'm going with the Macross Plus version. Isamu Dyson ftw!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishantil Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 You said YF-19, I so figured you meant the prototype, rather than the F19 Excalibur production version (seen in the horrible horrible Macross 7) And I fixed the typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elydo Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Aw, now I just look mad. And I so hate revealing that I am... Yeah, I couldn't stand Macross 7. Thank pasta for Frontier. It even gave us a Koenig Monster (squee) I adore overkill. Being a bit more serious, it wasn't introduced for a few more years after the start of Xenonauts, but I'd drool over a Flanker (Sukhoi Su-27) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairyscreech Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 You guys have seen the real planes mod in the mod forum right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoFourDelta Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 If we were really digging for aircraft to plausibly replace the two originals in-game... you'd probably be looking at the F-15 Eagle and the F-18 Hornet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msvknight Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 when I said that I meant planes with heavy weapons like torpedos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishantil Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 I've looking forward to the mod author taking up the torch again and adding more planes to the mix. @Elydo: Su-27 wasn't out in 1979 yet. Not until the early eighties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elydo Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 (edited) 1985 as far as I'm aware. They started designing what would become it in 1970 though, to act as a counterpart for the F-15, but it took a while to stop it from being crap. The first prototype flew in '77 but had... issues, so it was eventually redesigned and started test-flying in '81 and moving to full production in '85. Arguably the xenonauts stealing the design for the Flanker instead of the MiG-29 would have made more sense, as the two were developed concurrently (or at least both came from the same program), with the Flanker being the primary. After the full range of requirements proved to be too ambitious, the development was split into 'light' and 'heavy' roles, from which the MiG-29 was the short-range tactical 'light' fighter developed on the new track, and the original development track was redefined to be slightly less ambitious and focused on the 'heavy' role, and led to the Su-27. At that, the Flanker came into service only two years after the MiG-29, which wasn't 'out' until '83. Too late to change it now, of course, but I maintain it would have been a better option. Edited September 7, 2013 by Elydo Typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishantil Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Interesting stuff. I knew that the Su-27 was out much later than the F-15, so it would have made more sense to use it, as it's far better suited for the role the F-17 Condor is in. As for the "heavy" ordnance, the F-14 was designed to carry the AIM-54. But it's a carrier bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoFourDelta Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Too late to change it now, of course, but I maintain it would have been a better option. This is what can be avoided when you look at Google for 5 minutes, or ask someone before you start writing and drawing things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elydo Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Eh, it really isn't that big a deal. The only people who would even think twice about it are enthusiasts and at that Goldhawk picked an appropriate aircraft from the time period which is more than some developers (would) have done. Neither the Su-27 or the MiG-29, or any other aircraft, are capable of the range of the Foxtrot, and no aircraft is as limited in loadout. So the differences between reality and the game overshadow the more nuanced differences between two real aircraft either of which could have served as the inspiration for creating something impossible. The Flanker looks so much more badass though. There's an adage in the aersopace community: If it looks right, it's Right. One of the reasons why the Boeing X-32 lost the Joint Strike Fighter contest; it just looks kinda dorky. Not the official or even a deciding factor certainly, but trust me, it WAS a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfr Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Well, you can name only F-14 or F-15 actually. Because that is the very beginning of the forth generation of jet fighters and only 4 aircrafts of that generation were available at 1979: F-14, F-15, F-16 and MiG-31. Everything else were in prototype phase mostly and went into production phase only in '82-'83 like F/A-18, MiG-29 or Mirage 2000. Funny thing will be to see some space magic conversion of Tu-22M Backfire into UFO interceptor. It has a great combat radius, high max speed (2 Mach) and lots of missiles. The only problem is that T-22M was actually a bomber But having an aircraft that can shoot down any huge UFO by itself is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrashMan Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 http://s599.photobucket.com/user/Soronarr/media/Lets%20Play/VF1S.png.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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