Chris Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Evilbookworm - bear in mind there are two branches. V19 Stable is going to break all old save games but will be released later this week ideally. Once that is out you'll have full access to it for at least another couple of months. The experimental builds break save games regularly, but you have to opt into those updates to receive them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Ive looked up the specs of actual ballistic shields, and the ones rated to stop rifle rounds are actually pretty heavy but often are also wheeled. For reference the lightest high armour 'tower' shield I saw was ~85, but most others were atleast 100lbs- though wheels and the requisite frames are included in that. The less armoured ones vary from about 8 to 15lbs and are arm carried.So realistically 3lbs is way to low, but Id prefer its weight determined by balance and not realism. I agree with you for a shield that stop bullets, but this one stops plasma bursts. If XCom has plasma resistant aircraft, then it follows that the shield could be very light because if it wasn't it's highly unlikely that a plasma resistant aircraft would be light enough to get off the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekram Bogg Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 So, I'm new here and have a question: I get that I can download this stable build optionally, but when does something like this become an official update on Steam without doing this? I just bought this game the other day after I learned about it for the first time, and downloaded like you normally would, and the version is v18. When would Steam recognize this v19 as the "normal" version and auto-update accordingly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishantil Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Once it's released at the end of the week. The current version we're talking about the release candidate 2. So there will likely be some incremental patches until the devs decide to cut the "official" version 19 release. After they do that, the main game will update to version 19, and the devs will start beta 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRiME Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 What the hell is LBS? we talking in KG here dudes! Anyway the Shield in game is a HEAVY METAL shield not some plastic or teflon riot shield you see the police use. It is custom build for xcom hence its gonna be heavy. However 20KG is a bit much, was thinking 10KG for the metal one and 5KG for the alien alloy one (or 3KG I dunno). Also using a shield means you only have 1 hand free so you can't wield a rifle, however I do keep a shotgun handy in backpack. Additionally you should be training a soldier in strength to be special purpose shield bearer rather then expecting everyone to be shielded up at start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekram Bogg Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Once it's released at the end of the week. The current version we're talking about the release candidate 2. So there will likely be some incremental patches until the devs decide to cut the "official" version 19 release. After they do that, the main game will update to version 19, and the devs will start beta 20 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GizmoGomez Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 What the hell is LBS? we talking in KG here dudes!Anyway the Shield in game is a HEAVY METAL shield not some plastic or teflon riot shield you see the police use. It is custom build for xcom hence its gonna be heavy. However 20KG is a bit much, was thinking 10KG for the metal one and 5KG for the alien alloy one (or 3KG I dunno). Also using a shield means you only have 1 hand free so you can't wield a rifle, however I do keep a shotgun handy in backpack. Additionally you should be training a soldier in strength to be special purpose shield bearer rather then expecting everyone to be shielded up at start! I could live with 10 kilos at the heaviest. We're going to see if it's imbalanced, though. If it's not, then I don't think we should change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzglands Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Could you ad in a feature to disable and enable the vertical take off of Soldiers because they fly into the air for the slightest distance resulting in them getting shot. In EU you could tell them to go into air at will and the system for them was smart without getting your guys killed. Aliens reaction-firing at airborne soldiers is a known bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromitek Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 20 kg was ok for me. Strenght increases on every fight so I got 99 strenght soldiers in no time. 3 kg is unbalanced and unrealistic for me (espacialy for metal one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol' Stinky Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 20 kg was ok for me. Strenght increases on every fight so I got 99 strenght soldiers in no time. 3 kg is unbalanced and unrealistic for me (espacialy for metal one). Strength was levelling quicker than it should have been, though: now it increases by 1 per fight, not 2. But anyway, equipment should be useable by rookies without reducing them to a pistol, a shield and a bit of spare ammo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billion Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 dear developers! please make patches release period little bit longer. so we can ejoy the play and find more bugs and so you can fix more bugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabill Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 There's always the stable version (when it's released). I'm tempted to opt out of the experimental builds for a bit once that it out with a view to playing through the second half of the game (since the furthest I've got before bugs/new builds is ~mid December). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billion Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 i rotw this because All saved games from earlier versions (including experimental versions) are incompatible, attempting to load them will cause problems. so with each patch you have to start the new game again and again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabill Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I'm fairly sure (someone correct me if I'm wrong!) that they only update the stable version when they release a new stable version (which I doubt will be for months after the new one they're bringing out). So if you play with the stable version, it shouldn't be an issue (again, once they update to v19 Stable). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Yeah, so if you don't want your save games broken you can just use the Stable branch until you feel happy trying the new experimental builds again. The intention wasn't really that people would play literally every experimental build we make, although it seems some are trying to do that In any case, once V19 Stable is released there'll be another 2-3 week period before the V20 Experimental builds start to appear (releases are closer together towards the end of the cycle). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billion Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 In any case, once V19 Stable is released there'll be another 2-3 week period before the V20 Experimental builds start to appear (releases are closer together towards the end of the cycle). good to hear that! so i can start new game and report new bugs for v19 SC2. Hope 2-3 weeks will be enought to pass through whole game process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Undeniable progress with so many builds here. However I want the absolute best the GoldHawk Team is able to do, so will only buy, after a few Release Candidates V30.X Stable. Will wait till then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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