19,7 or National discrimination build

[Jemar]

Hello, my friends. I really had tough times last month, now having some spare time to spend on anti-alien war.

I started the game on veteran difficulty.... You know, it is good to see even one person in team which represent the country where you live. The balance of nations was good enough in previous builds.

But ... I started over the game nearly 25 times... and after looking at soldiers enlisted I went to hire menu.

Believe me if you can in all these times I NEVER MEET A SINGLE RUSSIAN MAN OR WOMAN.

So the probability of appearance of Russian man or woman in game is less than 1:500 (enlisted plus proposed to hire).

This is very interesting number especially in time when whole list of countries on Earth consists of 258 countries.

The figures look like discrimination based on the nationality. There were different words with the similar meaning.

Thank you for giving me attempt to get pleasure playing the game, but in current situation I feel strange feelings that are definitely far from pleasure.

[SteelSoldier]

Are you serious bro?

[thothkins]

You raised this in the v17 thread here, where it was explained that there has never been any such discrimination in the game. This explanation hasn't changed between the posts on that thread and this one.

[Jemar]

I think the problem is not so small as it can seem. I read about probability in another thread. So something is not true. Okay... let me show examples. 10 times will be okay I suppose.

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Edited August 18, 2013 by Jemar

[GizmoGomez]

Bro, if you're really having issues with there not being enough Russians, just mod the files yourself.

Personally, I don't discriminate between countries. A Russian man is as good as a woman from Zimbabawe, so long as they both kill aliens well.

[Jemar]

attempt 6

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attempt 10

to GizmoGomez: the women from African countries by the way are very beautiful, their portraits are excellent. The roulette of citizenship is fine in XCOM (2012) for example... Previously it was very good in Xenonauts. I started over 4-5 times to get 1 Russian soldier with proper portrait (if you look at my thread with ETA 79).

By the way new part of story represents the meeting of key hero, American journalist, with beautiful maid from Argentina, biologist Noviny Wiggin.

[thothkins]

Pinetree's excellent Xtended soldier Backgrounds provides many more names than the vanilla build. I suggest adding that.

[GizmoGomez]

Anyway, the game shouldn't be biasing out the Soviets. Perhaps it's a bug of some sort caused by the recent addition of a ton of new names?

[EchoFourDelta]

Yeah, I can confirm this. It seemed like random chance at first, but I set my starting soldier amount to 200, and have started several new games; I haven't got a single Russian.

What a weird bug.

Edited August 18, 2013 by EchoFourDelta

[GizmoGomez]

... You started out with 200 soldiers?

Dang.

[EchoFourDelta]

Quickest way to test it, yeah.

[thothkins]

last time I stand up for political correctness

[EchoFourDelta]

last time I stand up for political correctness

Yeah, seems like the mix should be about 40% US, 40% Soviet, with the other 20% being represented by the other guys, given the background of the in-game alliance.

[thothkins]

I posted in my build play through notes, that one of my soldiers had no portrait. I'm fairly sure that was a russian name. I wonder if there's a conncetion.

[GizmoGomez]

Not that I'm complaining, but I found a guy named Brett Perez. He was black. Are black people named Perez?

Love how every woman isn't named Barbara now, though. Love it.

[EchoFourDelta]

That was actually the first change I ever made to the game. I was looking over my soldier list at all the American chicks, and was wondering, "Why the hell are they all named Barbara?"

[thothkins]

It's all down to this I think:-

[video=youtube;I6EMALvJQVc]

[EchoFourDelta]

Makes all those Reaper missions make more sense,

[Chris]

We have merged the Russian soldiers into "Soviet" soldiers for historical accuracy. It appears that there is a bug and the new Soviet nationality is not appearing as intended, though when working correctly they are the most common of all the nationalities.

Jemar, I'm actually quite unhappy with the way you've treated Goldhawk here. This is a bug and all you have to do to report it is file a bug report. Why not ask us if it's intentional before accusing us of racism, and posting about it in the Steam forums?

[EchoFourDelta]

"We have merged the Russian soldiers into "Soviet" soldiers for historical accuracy. It appears that there is a bug and the new Soviet nationality is not appearing as intended, though when working correctly they are the most common of all the nationalities."

Could you elaborate? Was the actual chance for them increased following the merge, or is it simply the aggregate chance of the previous countries under that umbrella combined?

[GizmoGomez]

Bad form, Jemar.

[Jemar]

Yeah, men, you a right, the form was not good. I deleted the thread in steam forum. And regret that situation came to such a tense manner, mainly in case of my nervous reaction on the so called 'bug'. May be the trigger was in someone's idea for me to become a dictator and leave only Russian names in list (someone posted the proposal).

Anyway the game is a great project, and the guys who involved deserve the vast thanks from fans of XCOM especially. I hope that the whole job will be done for everyone's pleasure and without such extraordinary bugs.

And finally, to All Xenonauts team. I'm sorry for my anger. I could find more diplomatic approach, for sure.

Edited August 19, 2013 by Jemar

[Chris]

No problem. Thanks for deleting the Steam thread.

[GizmoGomez]

Good form.

[Trueknight]

Hi everybody.

Was this bug fixed in the latest releases? I still can't find any Soviet solider in V19 Stable... is there any way to hotfix this, maybe modifying the soldiernames.xml file?