Moonie Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Can you cut the silly wings off, or shrink the wings of the alien ship so that you can approach in more than one direction. And how come aliens can stand on the wings but my men can't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 What would the UFO look like without the wings? I don't think i like the idea. Besides the wings adds a tactical aspect to your aproach. Plus there will be more UFOs then that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTuninator Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 You can approach from the back too, I believe there was a problem where the UFO was getting placed at the edge of the map and the back was therefore inaccessible but that has been fixed AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedDragon Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 do note that it keeps saying 'Minor Damage' in the briefing screen. Who knows in later versions the heavy damage could mean loss of wing or half burried in the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonie Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 The crashed UFO model is the one thing that I hate about Xenonauts. It should be square/round/triangular/hexagon. Trying to introduce a complicated shaped UFO in this sort of game just does not work for me. It's about strategy before eye candy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTuninator Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I think the new UFO shape does add strategy, personally, as you have to plan out your approach from different angles due to its layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RulerOfNothing Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Actually Moonie, can you explain why the current UFO model is worse in terms of strategical depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 i think hes annoyed hes not confused by its deceptive layout. I remeber back in X-com you could se part of a larger UFO and have no clue where the acctual entrance was because all parts of the UFO looked the same, or like 3-4 smaller UFOs glued together. He might be getting flashbacks to other X-com clones and getting annoyed because of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathra Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Aliens standing on the wings is due to them spawning there, its not meant to happen. I'm more interested about if it planned that the connecting tunnel between the engine room and main room is meant to be able to be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonie Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 Actually Moonie, can you explain why the current UFO model is worse in terms of strategical depth. Approach, line of fire, positioning of the crashed ufo. That sort of thing. It's not only that, I think the present ufo looks kind of messy and not very interesting. How about a tear-drop shape, that would be quite cool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Approach, line of fire, positioning of the crashed ufo. That sort of thing. I'm not sure i quite understand. I think most of us think this design add more strategical depth then the old ocatagons of UFO:EU. could you elaborate on HOW it is worse, in terms of strategical depth, in those areas you mentioned? It's not only that, I think the present ufo looks kind of messy and not very interesting. How about a tear-drop shape, that would be quite cool? As I mentioned before it's not the only UFO in the game. (well it is atm but it wont be later on) A lot of us likes the UFO or atleast see no reason to change it. Do you think you could stand it if you consider that its one of many and there will be other shipdesingns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherdevil Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Approach, line of fire, positioning of the crashed ufo. That sort of thing. the fact that it has two parts, so close together yet so far, really means that you can break up your approach to the UFO, having groups concentrate n one end first then the other. Also it allows you to walk around both sides, should you want to. as for line of fire, well they are wings, and 'hugging' the ufo as you progress probably isn't the smartest. Just like trying to use a jet's wing for cover by standing behind it. It's not meant for cover, it's meant for flying. This means that you don't hug it, and you should maybe try going around the buildings etc. around the UFO, skirting wider opening up your field of vision etc. positioning of the ufo can presumably go in all 4 cardinal directions, unlike X-Com where it could only go in 2... Overall this UFO seems to imply more strategy, not walk up to UFO, hug the walls until I reach the door which can be in one of 2 places... I'm more interested about if it planned that the connecting tunnel between the engine room and main room is meant to be able to be used. What do they do if the engine breaks in space and they can't get to the engine room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToastedDragon Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 What do they do if the engine breaks in space and they can't get to the engine room? explosives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonie Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 What do they do if the engine breaks in space and they can't get to the engine room? Where is the engine? Nar, don't like the ufo at all, its just a evil shed with wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherdevil Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 it's in the back, circular room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerzZz Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I also think the tunnel between the "main" room and the "engine" room should be opened/connected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernal_Dalek Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I think the wings of scouts should be walkable; they're flat enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I dont really see the need of haveing them connected? is it convenice, your idea of reasonable ships design or gameplay reasons that makes you want them be connected? I'm sure theres an alien version of scottie from star trek in those engine rooms just happy to be locked up there during flights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherdevil Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 um well as I said if the engine breaks and there is no way of getting there and fixing it... Also it would add a bit in strategy perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 um well as I said if the engine breaks and there is no way of getting there and fixing it... anotherdevil: i was implying they had the onlyone capable of repairing the engine locked up in the engine room during flight anyway. If it blows theres no point in getting to it since the one that can repair it is already there and noone else can rfidddle withit in the right way. Wouldnt that be the smartest course of actions for the aliens? to ahve the guy maintaning and repairing it be in that compartment to begin with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathra Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Its not very comfortable though. It just seems odd to have an important part of the ship inaccessible from inside the ship, unless it leaks vast amounts of deadly radiation or something, but that adds other questions about why aliens are found inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherdevil Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Its not very comfortable though. It just seems odd to have an important part of the ship inaccessible from inside the ship, unless it leaks vast amounts of deadly radiation or something, but that adds other questions about why aliens are found inside. Trying to fix the crashed ship probablyanotherdevil: i was implying they had the onlyone capable of repairing the engine locked up in the engine room during flight anyway. If it blows theres no point in getting to it since the one that can repair it is already there and noone else can rfidddle withit in the right way.Wouldnt that be the smartest course of actions for the aliens? to ahve the guy maintaning and repairing it be in that compartment to begin with? What happens if whatever causes the engine to break kills the guy inside? Then he can't fix it and all his mates die too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 What happens if whatever causes the engine to break kills the guy inside? Then he can't fix it and all his mates die too... Oh I simply assumed anything killing the guy in the engine compartment would make the engine FUBAR anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherdevil Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 but what if it doesn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorlom Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 What would kill a person inside the engine room without makeing the engine either fubar or causing you to be unable to reach the engine without getting killed by radiation or whatever? I'm sorry but you will have to help my imagination out here... i just cant imagine it. Are we suggesting consoles blow up in the engineers face ala star trek? That allways puzzled me. why did the navigation or comrelay blow up in the bridge when the engine gondola(?) or weapons array was hit? Sure it made for better TV but whats the connection? Is it some kind of electrical powersurge? and they still havent put in shieldings in the powergrid after the first 3000 times that happened? And all spicies in star trek suffers from the same construction flaw? /rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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