mrstinkyweasle Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 works a charm that Gauddlike thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 (edited) I still dislike the "Alien's Turn" words and icon You could probably change/blank out the icon. I reckon the lettering is hard coded though as I can't find any images or anything for that part. It's an odd combination if so, three easily editable sections and one that cannot be altered. *edit* The text is in assets/scripts/hiddenmove.lua and hiddenmove_large.lua as is the link to add the icon. Both can be altered in size and the wording can be changed. You can probably even just delete the sections to prevent them being displayed. I don't which of those files is used at the moment though, not tested it. Edited June 17, 2013 by Gauddlike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Looking forward to seeing the alternative Hidden movement screen in action. I thought it would have to be one way or the other, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GizmoGomez Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Alright, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstinkyweasle Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 actually, just deleting the file also seems to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiesemans Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 To be fair' date=' I think that's not intended and is down to a bug - when your squad's actually taking fire or an alien moves into their line of sight, the screen's meant to go away and let you see what's happening. The hidden movement screen obscuring stuff that shouldn't be obscured happened to me a few times in v18 and earlier as well.[/quote']But it is happening and it's p@ssing me off bigtime. One tiny hotfix and BLAM my so much enjoyed in game action is totally screwed over .. Gone are the moments of truth. (Did I or did I not send a trooper to his death by placing him where he stands etc.) My God I am so irritated as we speak. I have endured 3 missions now and I am fed up already. If this horror continues I will end my playing asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiesemans Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Ah ok turns out that they actually already did that so you can change your own hidden movement overlay to whatever you want as long as it matches the dimensions of the existing one.Here is a quick sample of the one I just knocked up to test for anyone who is interested. http://i.imgur.com/cAtyPqP.jpg You could easily leave the border off or even remove the words as well and just have a pretty much blank image so you just get a slightly faded out screen. *edit* And another. http://i.imgur.com/Qedwewd.jpg /assets/gui/groundcombat/hiddenmovement to find the image file. Personally I think the development team needs to turn back this change *asap*. But as long as they don't have do I create, know where to place, and have a workable *work-arround* for the transparancy screen?! So that I may see them aliens pop caps at my troops once more ?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauddlike Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 That's the point of the experimental builds and why they are voluntary. Changes will be made that throw out the balance or alter features in a way that is less than ideal. When the new UI gets added it is possible that whole areas of the game could stop working completely if buttons don't link properly and so on. These changes need to be made, bugs ironed out, and feedback from the community examined. This is not going to be a smooth process that gives a polished game at every stage. If you want to continue playing a version that doesn't suffer from these problems then stick to the steam stable build. When the major bugs are ironed out and this version is stable then it will become the new steam stable build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrstinkyweasle Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Personally I think the development team needs to turn back this change *asap*.But as long as they don't have do I create, know where to place, and have a workable *work-arround* for the transparancy screen?! So that I may see them aliens pop caps at my troops once more ?! Try this: 1. Go here /assets/gui/groundcombat/hiddenmovement 2 .Rename the hiddenmovement.jpg to oldhiddenmovement.jpg and give that a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 But it is happening and it's p@ssing me off bigtime.One tiny hotfix and BLAM my so much enjoyed in game action is totally screwed over .. Gone are the moments of truth. (Did I or did I not send a trooper to his death by placing him where he stands etc.) My God I am so irritated as we speak. I have endured 3 missions now and I am fed up already. If this horror continues I will end my playing asap. Revert back to playing V18 Stable then? It only takes a few clicks. This is an experimental build, not a stable public build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 Sorry guys, but the experimental build is going to remain Steam only - it costs too much time to prepare other versions. BTW, if you guys want to tweak the hidden movement screen and show some different layout ideas that would be cool - post them up in the beta forum. You can tweak the layout of the screen in scripts/hiddenmove.lua and hiddenmove_large.lua (_large is the file for higher screen resolutions, so it's probably the one to tweak). Also, yes, there certainly are new annoying bugs and issues with the experimental branch. I will do my best to make sure it remains playable, but the whole point of it is to let us show you brand new features almost as soon as they are made; we cannot do that and also have it bug free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayneski Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I agree.If you are able to see the alien on screen,then you should be able to see the alien's actions when it's the alien's turn. I hope that this is just an experiment and is quickly removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercy Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 The only positive thing of Steam - if we can call steam positive - that should update automatically if you have opted . Of course if you are using MODs custom made in any game, then because of update the MODs are deleted. In current state however Steam Xenonauts greatly benefits from this auto-update, compared to Desura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Tiesemans, if you're going to pop a vein every time something happens in the experimental builds that you don't like, then I'd suggest that you stop playing the experimental builds right now. You are not going to have a good time in between more stable builds, and it's not going to help you to play something you actively hate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kefeinzel Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) The bug with the foxtrot only having two hardpoints now is still there too /sarcasm Edit : As I thought, with the foxtrot change I literally can't shoot down landing ships now Edited June 18, 2013 by kefeinzel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GizmoGomez Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Use more than one foxtrot? Or use more than one squadron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangehat44 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 But it is happening and it's p@ssing me off bigtime.One tiny hotfix and BLAM my so much enjoyed in game action is totally screwed over .. Gone are the moments of truth. (Did I or did I not send a trooper to his death by placing him where he stands etc.) My God I am so irritated as we speak. I have endured 3 missions now and I am fed up already. If this horror continues I will end my playing asap. Dude chill out this is an experimental build to try new stuff. They update it frequently with changes and fixes this build is to be a living growing thing. It is not a stable version as prefaced by the disclaimer to join it. Play the stable build for a stable build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xierg Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 For folks who can't take the changes, do as I'm doing and continue to follow the progression but don't actually play it until release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiesemans Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Dude chill out this is an experimental build to try new stuff. They update it frequently with changes and fixes this build is to be a living growing thing. It is not a stable version as prefaced by the disclaimer to join it. Play the stable build for a stable build. Well unlike many people I experience that (even) the experimental build is good fun, I certainly have a lot of fun, hours on end. Thats prob. the reason why I tend to make such a fuzz about something that gets screwed up in the (experimental) updates. Edited June 21, 2013 by Tiesemans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcom Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I haven't tried version 18.1 yet but i prefer the alien turn screen the way as it has always been. I think i should see what my soldiers can see. If the shot came from behind or from the side, maybe that's another story. About the alien turn name being shown instead of civilian turn, IMO there are some reasons for that. In this kind of game, there is your turn and the alien turn. There is no third party turn. Even if you don't agree with that, consider that civilians and local forces move inside the alien turn. Distinguishing between civilian turn and alien turn would add a complexity not needed, and also suppose that in the future they add an alien that have the same footstep sound of humans...this would add more suspense and a degree of mystery. Who is there, human or alien ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raziel1981 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 I tried out the new exp build last night and I really disliked the new hidden movement screen. Even as an original X-COM fanatic I'd rather have the hidden movement removed completely or kept as it was originally then left as it is in the new build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathra Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Just the look of it, or that it never goes away to show stuff you should be able to see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raziel1981 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) that it never lets me see the stuff that i should be able to see... hmm come to think of it, i hate how it looks too. Instead of understanding that now happens enemy action that my forces don't see it I just get someone sticking a paper in my face while the game proceeds. And the "alien turn" is also annoying. Might as well as remove that. Edited June 19, 2013 by raziel1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sathra Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 You can remove the image from the game (assets/gui/GroundCombat/hiddenmovement/"hiddenmovementsmall") pretty easily. Its actually pretty nice now, though the screen does centre on black areas with alien activity which can help pinpoint aliens perhaps too easily. Or it could be your soldiers hearing movement out in the 'unknown' zones, either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamb Chop Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Something is wrong with the way psionics work as well. I finally get to the carriers, downed one. First turn works great, When I click the en turn and start to get xxxx yyyy has been revealed to the enemy forces, It CTD's... Investigating and will post more information as it becomes available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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