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[ V.11 - Ground Combat] "Hidden Movement" graphic still pops up

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I agree, this relic from X1 should be dispensed with, as if you can't see it it is not there, I think it was put in the early game for cinematic tension.

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In the first Battles I hadn´t this picture. End of February / Beginning March this was comming then. I liked this Feature in the old X-Com Games too. Maybe we can do it transperantly later on.

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It's not a bug, it's an intended feature. It's quite possible we'll remove it in a later version of the game but there's more urgent things for us to be working on in the immediate future. Best thing is to keep reminding us every few months and you'll probably eventually catch us at a good time :)

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Thanks for the responses, and I will keep bringing it up, as it continues to be the equivalent of the dog sitting in front of the TV at inconvenient times..

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Thinking over Chris' comments, I've gotta complain just one more time: I just finished a turn in an early terror combat in the shipping container yards where almost every alien turn was covered up at some point by the "Hidden Movement" graphic.  By hitting the edges of the screen with the cursor I can usually see something of what's going on, and none of what I glimpsed was anything that needed to be hidden, although it was often some action that I needed to see for planning and which was within the squad's LOS.  This is the one thing that really interferes with my enjoyment of the game, and I'm not expecting a bug-free or finished product in a beta.  I know that there are aliens creeping around where I can't see them.  The HM graphic is like creating tension by randomly blinding my entire squad: it's neither realistic nor fun.  

If a lot of you really like this graphic, I'd be interested in hearing why.  Maybe players are assuming that the stuff that's covered up is stuff your squad really couldn't see with the current LOS rules?  I do, of course, understand about other game priorities for the devs.  Just wanted to gripe.  Now I feel better.

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On 2/17/2020 at 12:26 AM, maxm222 said:

Thinking over Chris' comments, I've gotta complain just one more time: I just finished a turn in an early terror combat in the shipping container yards where almost every alien turn was covered up at some point by the "Hidden Movement" graphic.  By hitting the edges of the screen with the cursor I can usually see something of what's going on, and none of what I glimpsed was anything that needed to be hidden, although it was often some action that I needed to see for planning and which was within the squad's LOS.  This is the one thing that really interferes with my enjoyment of the game, and I'm not expecting a bug-free or finished product in a beta.  I know that there are aliens creeping around where I can't see them.  The HM graphic is like creating tension by randomly blinding my entire squad: it's neither realistic nor fun.  

If a lot of you really like this graphic, I'd be interested in hearing why.  Maybe players are assuming that the stuff that's covered up is stuff your squad really couldn't see with the current LOS rules?  I do, of course, understand about other game priorities for the devs.  Just wanted to gripe.  Now I feel better.

The HM screen is only meant to be displayed if action is occuring that isn't in the LOS of your soldiers; it's literally meant to hide movement that is hidden.

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>The HM screen is only meant to be displayed if action is occurring that isn't in the LOS of your soldiers; it's literally meant to hide movement that is hidden.

Okay, so the assumption is that the HM graphic is not hiding anything that it shouldn't hide, yes?  And what I'm saying is that the HM is covering what should be visible.  I have taken casualties from "ghost" aliens that were hidden from view by the HM, and when I can scroll quickly enough to defeat the HM, I can see aliens who are in LOS moving around under the HM graphic.

The reason I'm trying to clarify this: if everyone else believes that the HM graphic is ONLY covering up movement that would not be visible anyway, I will need to document what I am seeing, since otherwise I can understand why no one else would be reporting or prioritizing the issue.

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