Sentelin Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Yes that grenades for late aliens.. The story is, the mod u are using, uses Kabills ufo crews.. After i made new aliens i finished the new ufo crews 1 hour ago... it looks easy first but when u start it, took my 3 days.. so i noticed that Kabill's crew lists are more chaotic.. u can see some high end aliens at beginning, or the support races like wraiths/harridans/drones are just scattered for all main races.. Its good to see many things same time but i want you again fight 3 different main race and their own supporters and i dont want u see higher rank aliens so much with lows... so with new crew list you will get time to manuacture enough gear to face that weapons.. It means not it will be easier because every parts of the game will have their hard enemies and now u need to get some alive to reach important techs.. I want to clarify things here a bit.Reason why Kabill's ufo crews seems chaotic is for the sake of randomness.Whole point is to randomize ship crew to be less linear than vanilla's.This is pretty much what XNT also had,so there were moments that you had to give up on mission or suffer huge causalities to unlock advance tech branch or accelerate advance tech research which otherwise would take ages to unlock in standard way (or you want to prove to yourself that you are goddamn good strategist and sacrifice your crew for stupid cause,it was up to players). So yeah we kept this for those "OMG I am outmatch.I have to pull back" moments but they also most of the time were rewarding if you win and as I mentioned it was way less linear feeling because there was always a chance for something you didn't see coming like it was case in vanilla. Edited January 28, 2015 by Sentelin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drages Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 I want to clarify things here a bit.Reason why Kabill's ufo crews seems chaotic is for the sake of randomness.Whole point is to randomize ship crew to be less linear than vanilla's.This is pretty much what XNT also had,so there were moments that you had to give up on mission or suffer huge causalities to unlock advance tech branch or accelerate advance tech research which otherwise would take ages to unlock in standard way (or you want to prove to yourself that you are goddamn good strategist and sacrifice your crew for stupid cause,it was up to players).So yeah we kept this for those "OMG I am outmatch.I have to pull back" moments but they also most of the time were rewarding if you win and as I mentioned it was way less linear feeling because there was always a chance for something you didn't see coming like it was case in vanilla. I know it and it's good thing. Just i need some more control over it with many new aliens.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ventuswings Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) No Reaper AI until v0.98 right? Waiting to face alien menace in full and changelog for hotfix is little vagud (¨melee aj added") Edit: Thank you! Edited January 28, 2015 by ventuswings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentelin Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Actually Reaper AI along with all (or most) melee aliens is re-worked in this hotfix and I doubt it will receive any significant change in 0.98 beside some balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chema_C Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Hotfix 4 playing smooth to date, including a base assault and a landed landing ship. Nextgen ballistics damage reapers. Kudos dudes. Would it be possible to add an "inoculation" effect of xenonauts in combat, followed by a sudden appearance of a reaper/xenomorphs force inside a base?...You know, the 8th passenger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamPa Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The problem with fighter dissasembly is that you need separate hangar slots for each one. Unless you have a base specifically dedicated for that purpose, with multiple spare hangars, you have to work on one fighter, wait until it's finished, queue another one. Well, unless there's something I'm missing here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drages Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 The problem with fighter dissasembly is that you need separate hangar slots for each one. Unless you have a base specifically dedicated for that purpose, with multiple spare hangars, you have to work on one fighter, wait until it's finished, queue another one. Well, unless there's something I'm missing here. Very nice point u got here.. I forgot that totally. But if u stack at 2, it would be lame to wait 3. So I won't change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drages Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Hotfix 4 playing smooth to date, including a base assault and a landed landing ship. Nextgen ballistics damage reapers. Kudos dudes. Would it be possible to add an "inoculation" effect of xenonauts in combat, followed by a sudden appearance of a reaper/xenomorphs force inside a base?...You know, the 8th passenger... It would be nice story but sadly u can't trigger any think without an ufo.. if zombie isn't hard coded I would love to make aliens pop up inside humans.. it would be nice for terror missions with many civilian in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbrown0786 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Bringing a alien triggered zombie " plague " would be cool one other thing I would like to see is based being able to stock pile and use alien weapons something like the xenophobia mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odizzido Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) oh no, keep the single fighter disassembly, but also add a 3X option. I was making something and ended up with like 11 fighters at one point. I could easily see you having more in storage as well. I just thought it was tedious is all. edit----- K so I've never really looked at modding this game before, but something like this is what I mean This is what you have: <Row> <Cell><Data ss:Type="String">ManTech.FighterDSB</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="String">Aircraft</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="Number">10</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="Number">1000</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="String">1xItems.FallenFighter</Data></Cell> <Cell ss:Index="8" ss:StyleID="s68"><Data ss:Type="String">StockItem( "Items.FighterHull" );StockItem( "Items.Alienbeam" );StockItem( "Items.Alienalloys" );</Data></Cell> <Cell ss:StyleID="Default"/> <Cell ss:StyleID="s74"><Data ss:Type="String">airplane.human.datacore</Data></Cell> </Row> This is what I suggest: <Row> <Cell><Data ss:Type="String">ManTech.FighterDSB</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="String">Aircraft</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="Number">10</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="Number">1000</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="String">1xItems.FallenFighter</Data></Cell> <Cell ss:Index="8" ss:StyleID="s68"><Data ss:Type="String">StockItem( "Items.FighterHull" );StockItem( "Items.Alienbeam" );StockItem( "Items.Alienalloys" );</Data></Cell> <Cell ss:StyleID="Default"/> <Cell ss:StyleID="s74"><Data ss:Type="String">airplane.human.datacore</Data></Cell> </Row> <Row> <Cell><Data ss:Type="String">ManTech.FighterDSB3</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="String">Aircraft</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="Number">10</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="Number">1000</Data></Cell> <Cell><Data ss:Type="String">3xItems.FallenFighter</Data></Cell> <Cell ss:Index="8" ss:StyleID="s68"><Data ss:Type="String">StockItem( "Items.FighterHull" );StockItem( "Items.Alienbeam" );StockItem( "Items.Alienalloys" );StockItem( "Items.FighterHull" );StockItem( "Items.Alienbeam" );StockItem( "Items.Alienalloys" );StockItem( "Items.FighterHull" );StockItem( "Items.Alienbeam" );StockItem( "Items.Alienalloys" );</Data></Cell> <Cell ss:StyleID="Default"/> <Cell ss:StyleID="s74"><Data ss:Type="String">airplane.human.datacore</Data></Cell> </Row> Edited January 28, 2015 by odizzido Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbrown0786 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I seem to have an issue with the latest hit fix. Played up in till jan80 all aliens just have plasma weapons balistic weapons or anything else's can't get weapons development going is this by design or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbrown0786 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Question how can the game be edited so I can change which weapons I get at start?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnileolemans Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Wow. Thanks for the reply to my question. Looks like you're really plugging away at this and I must say I'm impressed with your work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euskai Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I seem to have an issue with the latest hit fix. Played up in till jan80 all aliens just have plasma weapons balistic weapons or anything else's can't get weapons development going is this by design or what? I'm having the same problem, I'm seeing no advanced weapons and no xenos/vipers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drages Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Question how can the game be edited so I can change which weapons I get at start?? Here is not to learn how to edit game.. the mod is working.. check your install.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alienkiller Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 You can disasemble Ufos of one type in a row. Like you produce something. Example: you have 4 Scout-, 4 light Scout-, 3 Corvette- and 7 Fighter-Datacores in store. You wana disassemble the 7 Fighter-Datacores then you choose it and click up to 7. So one by one Fighter-Datacore will disasembled up to zero. The next free Hanger is reserved for Corvette-Datacores. Same Game like the fighters. If I wanna dissasemble something and have much in Stores, I do it so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odizzido Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 If I have one hangar slot I can queue up just one fighter. Two hangars free = a max queue of two etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbrown0786 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Here is not to learn how to edit game.. the mod is working.. check your install.. Reinstall everything up to hot fix 4 no still nothing but plasma weapons for aliens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alienkiller Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Like I said, because I tested it several times. You need only one Hangar, take the first Core you wana dissemble and increase it to the number you wana dessemble. It´s the same like you produce Weapons, Armors etc. The Hangar then will be used to dissemble all Cores of the same Core you chose. I testet it several times in XNT as well as in X-Devision. So you dont have the mircormanagement of one core and then the next Core etcpp. Edited January 29, 2015 by Alienkiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartsimpson Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Same problem with no advanced weapons here. I have researched a lot (I have Marauder and some advanced technology) but no weapons at all, just starting ballistic ones only. Perhaps I have researched and manufactured plasma missiles and plasma torpedos for the aircraft. Is it possible to unlock those technologies without starting a new game? Maybe I did miss something specific... Thank You for helping me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamPa Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Like I said, because I tested it several times. You need only one Hangar, take the first Core you wana dissemble and increase it to the number you wana dessemble. It´s the same like you produce Weapons, Armors etc.The Hangar then will be used to dissemble all Cores of the same Core you chose. I testet it several times in XNT as well as in X-Devision. So you dont have the mircormanagement of one core and then the next Core etcpp. It certainly doesn't work like that for me, it's one core per hangar in my game. Maybe it's a different version of non-modded game, like 1.5 or something?Same problem with no advanced weapons here. I have researched a lot (I have Marauder and some advanced technology) but no weapons at all, just starting ballistic ones only. Perhaps I have researched and manufactured plasma missiles and plasma torpedos for the aircraft. Is it possible to unlock those technologies without starting a new game? Maybe I did miss something specific... Thank You for helping me!There does to be a research gap of some sort. I have "finished" all of my research and had nothing higher than second tier ballistic/basic lasers, with nothing to research for couple months. All of sudden, Plasma research has appeared for some reason. Don't know if that leads anywhere yet, but even if it does, it's a lather large pause between tiers. Or maybe it takes too long for aliens with researchable weapons to show up. Edited January 29, 2015 by KamPa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drages Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 Its realy strange.. i didnt change anything about it.. this "no research" started after hotfix 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
euskai Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Its realy strange.. i didnt change anything about it.. this "no research" started after hotfix 4? I had a few campaign starts before hotfix 4 and I never had this problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartsimpson Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I did never play X-Division mod before hotfix 4. It was happened something similar once with an older version of original Xenonauts (it was related to aircraft research) but after I have restarted a new game, everything was working again. So I presume that there is no way to unlock research tree without restarting? I really don't think I made some mistakes about mod installation because it is very easy and I am using steam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamPa Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 In my case it was hotfix 3. And it wasn't really "no research", but tons of different topics that didn't really introduce any new gear. I mean, yes, some new kind of grenades and similar things, but main weapons remained the same for quite a while. After all was researched, there was nothing for couple months and now there are plasma weapons for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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