henri5 Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 It is a good idea to have a wiki, I particularly like the pictures of the aliens, because I have a very hard time remembering which is which and their names and capabilities. But there are some serious mistakes. 1) Many of the Xenonaut weapons have the wrong range. For example the laser rifle indicates 20, despite the wiki saying that it has a longer range than the ballistic, which shows a much longer range. Maybe one is in meters and the other in squares? 2) The wiki air tactics against fighters is flawed.It says to fire two missiles in quick succession will down a fighter or a scout "as long as both missiles hit" , but the fighter will ALWAYS dodge the first mission (unless it is a Corvette that will not be downed by two Condor missiles), making this impossible. 3)The wiki implies that a single Condor can take on two fighters, but in fact that is certain suicide, since the fighters are faster than the Condor, and the Condor does not have enough missiles to down 2 fighters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Luc Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The wiki was written like 9 balance patches ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoFourDelta Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 A good deal of it looks like it was written by people who aren't exactly fluent in English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The wiki is probably going to be removed if I'm honest. It never really took off and getting it filled up is going to be a looot of effort I'd rather spend on writing a manual or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The wiki is probably going to be removed if I'm honest. It never really took off and getting it filled up is going to be a looot of effort I'd rather spend on writing a manual or something.Well, if you get rid of the Wiki can we at least the the formulas for accuracy and other vital game calcs etc... in the documentation somewhere like an appendix? Those will be very handy and basically vital for modders to understand what they're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xakthos Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 The wiki is probably going to be removed if I'm honest. It never really took off and getting it filled up is going to be a looot of effort I'd rather spend on writing a manual or something. I would recommend instead of elimination postponement. Disable it for now then once the game is out of beta and considered released then open it back up with the various final formulas for accuracy/etc. Trying to maintain it right now I think is a waste of your resources but down the road when the values aren't quite so dramatic it may not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I would recommend instead of elimination postponement. Disable it for now then once the game is out of beta and considered released then open it back up with the various final formulas for accuracy/etc. Trying to maintain it right now I think is a waste of your resources but down the road when the values aren't quite so dramatic it may not be.That was my other thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I'd have enjoyed adding content to the wiki as things went on, but couldn't even log into the thing to change. If that's fixed, or if it's removed and replaced with a clean slate (some warning in case there's still useful nuggets on it, then it could still be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 I'd have enjoyed adding content to the wiki as things went on, but couldn't even log into the thing to change. If that's fixed, or if it's removed and replaced with a clean slate (some warning in case there's still useful nuggets on it, then it could still be useful.Without a copy of the current game code you wouldn't be able to accurately document the formula either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 True, but there's a heck of a lot of game data, breakdowns, descriptions etc that could be started on. Not to mention guides on a number of topics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voeter Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Might be I don't know because I'm fairly new to the board, but is there a particular reason the wiki isn't (properly) maintained by (a goldhawk-hand-picked) group of fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 For me, it's simply because the registration process doesn't work. There's not been any feeling that this would change. A separate Xenonauts wiki was set up, that you can find here. If the feeling is that the goldhawk one won't come back, then I'd suggest adding to that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarRat Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's also nearly impossible to update some of the Wiki without access to the source code (like I said earlier.) Trying to derive the formulas for damage, firing, etc... through sheer repetition and graphing would be horrible and potentially inaccurate. So, Goldhawk pretty much has to provide some of the information for the Wiki. That doesn't mean the fans couldn't provide a lot of known info about other things though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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