Xenonaut123 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Hi Guys. I have this situation: I am in the 3. month now day 10 i think. Udssr found is 54360 $ but I have also a minus 54360 $ . This means, after ending the mounth I will lose this nation. The question is, if I will catch some ufos in the next 20 days, do I will safe this nation or do I will lost in anyway??? I dont sure if you can safe a nation if your are at this point that you have exact the minus like the found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Wther a nation leaves you or not is calculated at the end of the month, when you get funding. So if you work hard, you may be able to save that funding bloc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonaut123 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Yes I know normaly it must be so like you say. The question is, is it possible or not. Because I think maybe there are a bug, means if you have minus like the funding, that there are no chance to save this nation any more. I had the same situation with Europe. had 11000 founding and minus 11000. few days before month is ending I had shot two UFos and engage this. but there are still minus 11000 and I have loste europe in end of mounth. What is your experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I have been able to rebuild a relationship between myself and a funding bloc that almost left, but I've never been in your particular situation, so I can only suggest based on what I was able to do. Bear in mind that the actual negative/positive funding is rounded up/down to the nearest $1000, so you have to work extra hard for a positive score when it is negative (you have to score highly to get that positive "flip") Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonaut123 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Sorry, dont understand what exactly you mean with: "Bear in mind that the actual negative/positive funding is rounded up/down to the nearest $1000, so you have to work extra hard for a positive score when it is negative (you have to score highly to get that positive "flip") " can you explain please for stupid people with bad english knowledge like me? ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabill Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I don't know this for certain, but you might find that the funding change displayed is capped at the present level of funding (this seems to be the case based on wha you've written). So, for example, there might actually be a forecast change of -$100,000, but because you're only receiving $54,360 that's the mostyou can actually lose. Thus, to not be reduced to $0 at the end of the month, you'd have to do enough to turn a reduction of $100,000 into a reduction of less than $54,360 (which would probably take a lot of effort). Don't know if this is true, but it would explain what happened with Europe in the example you gave if the actual reduction was much larger than what you had left to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonaut123 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 @kabill thats make sense . Is it that what you had mean @Max_Caine? Is it so like kabill had say it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcomnaut Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Try to scaut that nation territory, most likely there is alien base or maybe even few of them. Alien bases must be defeated asap cause they generate negative score every game day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonaut123 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 what dit you mean exactly with scout? I mean I have a satalit for this. Or is it possible to fly with my jets from the satalit range and see somethings outside from the satalit range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 The aircraft have the ability to detect alien bases, within a short range. So, I'd be flying planes over there on a regular basis, if possible too. It seems you're in a desperate situation though, so do post to say how it worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonaut123 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Had checked all suvetunion with my planes. I am in november 21. So have 9 days left. Looks bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 I liked the idea of being able to influence/bribe nations much like you could do in Apocalypse. It meant that the deadly downward spiral could be postponed a bit. Does starting a base in the funding nation not help a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonaut123 Posted August 5, 2013 Author Share Posted August 5, 2013 Had checked all sovietunion with my planes. No alian base. I am in november 21 and have 9 days left. Looks bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Caine Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) kabill almost has it right. The actual negative funding (i.e. the amount of funding you will loose at the end of the month) is not what the displayed negative funding is, because the actual negative funding is always rounded up or down to the nearest $5000. So, if your actual negative funding was -$9730, it would be displayed as -$10,000, because that is -$9730 rounded up to the nearest $5000. So, if there were no other changes made to funding that month, -$9730 would be deducted from funding, because that is the actual level of funding you would loose, not -$10,000. Which means if you wanted your displayed negative funding to improve from -$9730 you woudl have to do missions until it was brought below -$7500, when it would round down to -$5000. In your specifc case, Xenonaut123. When you wrote your inital post, you posted funding at -$110,000. Which means your acutal negative funding could be anything from -$107,500 to -$112,499. So it means you either have a lot of work to get below -$110,000, or you are already below -$110,000. Edited August 6, 2013 by Max_Caine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonaut123 Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 Thanks for help guys, but i think i will anyway lose sovietunion. ;-( . In my opinian , at end version it most be possible to recover lost nations. It dont must be a easy think but it most be possible. Maybe make a payment of one millon usd to the nation or spmethings. But it must be possible. I have other small things what i can tell the prducer what he can make better. Where i must post it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 It has been hinted that there may be a once only mission to return a funding nation to Xenonauts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonaut123 Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 that will be also great of course. Its just importend to have the possibility to return a nation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thothkins Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 I wonder what the mechanic will be like:0- - If you beat the aliens in that mission, does it mean that they can't retake the country. You've effectively purged the place. - You get $10 more than needed to take the country out of the red. It lasts until the end of the month and then you're in trouble again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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