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    [V8.41 - Ground Combat] Incorporeal Xenonaut

    Here's a bizarre bug: I've run into it twice thus far, but haven't figured out the reproduction steps yet.

    Philip Hall couldn't be selected by left-clicking on the Battlescape, but utilising the button row, mouse wheel or hotkey for the same purpose worked just fine. Corporal Hall's comrades were able to occupy the same square as him, but the game froze during the alien turn while he was entangled with a squadmate.

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    Weird. I thought we'd cured that. I've no idea what's causing it and I'm not really thrilled it's back. Had a really hard time tracking it down in the past...
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    Yeah, been having this for all of V8. Happens with the vehicle too sometimes.
    Can't figure out reproduction steps either.
    Common wisdom proposes that at minimum 60% of the field of engagement should be rubble and/or on fire. As such the munitions budget has been increased 50%. Operations debriefs have shown that 15% is insufficient for current combat requirements.
    Ein jeder Engel ist schrecklich.

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    I have a hunch as to what's causing this curious behaviour: the overspending of action points. If you're in the habit of frantically clicking on the terrain, you've indubitably witnessed some smooth moves (e.g. moonwalking) by your units. Only today did it occur to me that certain manoeuvres of this variety may be in violation of game rules.

    Case in point: Hunter-001 cruising down the street, on the lookout for space scum. Towards the end of its movement, I had a sudden change of mind about the direction it should be facing and right-clicked accordingly. The vehicle dutifully carried out both orders despite the cost of the initial command amounting to the number of action points it had left. A ghost was born.

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    A while later, I had a soldier perform a similar trick.

    Edited to add: I've never actually seen the number beside the AP bar go below zero.
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    Boom, you nailed it. It's reproducable now. This bug has been around since we first started the ground combat so major props for being the first person who worked out what was causing it.
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    Hmm, we should have some kind of award to give to super-helpful forumites.
    Common wisdom proposes that at minimum 60% of the field of engagement should be rubble and/or on fire. As such the munitions budget has been increased 50%. Operations debriefs have shown that 15% is insufficient for current combat requirements.
    Ein jeder Engel ist schrecklich.

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    But wait, there's more! I've discovered an alternate method of conjuring up ghosts.

    While familiarising myself with the concept of issuing commands to multiple soldiers simultaneously, I found out that should two units' paths cross, they slip past each other, which is fine from a usability standpoint.

    Unless one of them is done getting from A to B when they meet, whereupon the non-active unit becomes a phantasm as described in the opening post.

    Illustrated example below.

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    Test this in the next build to see if it's still happening. I hope not.
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    The initial issue appears to have been patched. Method #2 still produces ghosts in the manner described.
    Last edited by iamkyon; 12-21-2011 at 03:36.

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