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    Thread: Simple UI suggestion for DEAD soldiers to really drive the point home with players.

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      Simple UI suggestion for DEAD soldiers to really drive the point home with players.

      X-Com players have always been a bit immersive-driven and even masochistic, yes?

      Why not drive home the point that "Dude, your guy who was alive last turn is now DEAD. You failed them. You failed humanity. They're DEAD. It says right there on the screen - DEAD. Where their health and TU's and morale was - it now says DEAD, and it's your fault."

      Simple - replace the current gap or disappearance of the dead soldier's mini-information bar with their number on top of the "currently selected soldier information bar" - with the simple, capital letters word "DEAD".

      That's it. Guilt trip the players. No further suggestions, Your Honour.

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      Maybe cue a funeral dirge sound byte?

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      In big red letters from a fat rubber stamp.
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      Quote Originally Posted by TheUbiquitous View Post
      In big red letters from a fat rubber stamp.
      LMAO like the JA2 web mercenary hiring screen 'KIA' rubber stamp (or whatever is says) on the mercenaries thumbnail portrait

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      Maybe instead of just the word DEAD it should be a scrolling message so the button doesn't need to be very big.
      You could have it saying 'Oh my god, look what you did, you killed him. He used to be alive with hopes and dreams for the future. Now he is dead and it is all down to you. His family will never see him again, they will only get a sucky little flag to remember him by, why did you make him go into that ship alone you monster? Surely you knew that little Timmy was going to be 3 this weekend? Poor little Timmy.'
      Or something like that.
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      There is still a chance he/she is alive though! Maybe it should just grey their portrait out?

      Also if you abandon a mission with dead/wounded troops still on the ground it should just say M.I.A on the end of mission screen (with a chance the soldier makes it back to HQ after a few weeks - if they were still alive that is).

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      I would only make one little suggestion to your idea, Oathbreaker. As Belmakor says, all squaddies that go to 0 or less HP have one chance at the end of the mission to be revived. The greater the negative, the less the chance of survival (and it's possible to auto-fail). Therefore, instead of a DEAD, perhaps a CRITICAL? And also greyed out, as Belmakor suggests? And if the squaddie fails the survival roll, perhaps have the image in the after-combat solider development screen with the word DEAD stamped on it.

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      KIA or MIA rather than DEAD or MISSING on the after action screen I would think.
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      Since Gauddlike already got in one about little orphan pictures and videos of the kids sobbing, what about.

      When you have a certain high mortality rate, a little box appears saying "Your troops no longer respect you as a commander. They refuse to follow your orders. You have failed them, their loved ones, the military and all of Earth with your feeble tactics. The End."

      You could do it per mission. "Your troops won't enter the warehouse, because last mission you ordered Gauddlike to destroy it while there were three men inside."
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      Quote Originally Posted by thothkins View Post
      When you have a certain high mortality rate, a little box appears saying "Your troops no longer respect you as a commander. They refuse to follow your orders. You have failed them, their loved ones, the military and all of Earth with your feeble tactics. The End."
      I like that. I would also add a line in there like "Yes, you have proven such a godawful leader that your troops would rather let the aliens win than serve under you for even one more mission."

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