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Sathra
11-24-2011, 11:08
Creating this thread for posting of correct co-ordinates and names of various cities, as well as any border corrections.

Don't derail it or start random discussions about minutiae. Try to keep it focused.
anotherdevil
11-24-2011, 20:45
Not being a dick, but what is 'minutiae'?

Looking forward to a more fleshed out world map soon!
iamkyon
11-24-2011, 22:37
Not being a dick, but what is 'minutiae'?

It's Latin for "insignificant details" or something to that effect.

On a more topical note: Windhoek is the capital city of Namibia, not Nigeria.
Sathra
11-25-2011, 01:23
Yes, arguing about what minutiae means is minutiae.
NeutralGround
11-26-2011, 14:51
Yes, arguing about what minutiae means is minutiae.

Comedy Gold.

There is a 'small' matter(just ask most mainland Australians) of the unfortunate exclusion of Tasmania from the Australian Continent:

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Also, as as the other state capitals of Australia are present the other missing one is Darwin, Northern Territory. Its mostly desert out there, however it does contain on of Australias largest Airforce bases, so could be considered thematically important to the Xenonauts Geoscape - unlike tasmania, but I guess its only fair they are included too.
anotherdevil
11-26-2011, 19:53
ha ha and now darwin has one of America's bases too!

By that map it looks like Christchurch is off too... will have to change that. And no Auckland? It only has half our population...
sectoid
11-28-2011, 02:57
i noticed that whole Philippines and Sulawesi as well as Micronesia is missing.
any plans to bring them back?
to me, is ok to omit Micronesia, but Philippines and Sulawesi are very prominant lands on earth, if xcom 1 & 2 were able to represent these 2 lands with polygon-shaped borders decade ago, i think Xenonaut will have weak excuse to omit them today...

hey, we might intercepted and shoot down UFOs to crash on these 2 lands, ya' know~ :p
Turkey
12-04-2011, 01:21
There is a 'small' matter(just ask most mainland Australians) of the unfortunate exclusion of Tasmania from the Australian Continent
Another minor thing, but is Brisbane a few 100k's further south on that map than it should be?
Sathra
12-04-2011, 09:55
If possible, please try to include the Geoscape map co-ordinates for cities if you can. It would be a great help to Chris and the team (and save them time as well).
IceVamp
01-09-2012, 16:30
Got to represent!

Europe;
X 4335 Y 0681 - Oslo
X 4216 Y 0655 - Bergen
X 4331 Y 0602 - Trondheim
X 4513 Y 0460 - Tromsų
X 4651 Y 0437 - Hammerfest (Northernmost town in the world! Or so we like to think!)
Overlord
01-09-2012, 17:15
Berlin is missing.
Gorlom
01-09-2012, 17:43
Do you have the coordinates?

and listing all the capitals in europe would make it a bit crowded would it not? Maybe Rome Moscow and either London or Paris? and skip the rest unkess really zoomed in?
IceVamp
01-09-2012, 18:42
Well yes, zooming in to see them is a given. But I don't think one should skip major cities like that. Millions of people live in them after all. I reckon it's a quick thing to input a spot and a name, and as long as it is, I'd rather have as much detail as possible really. I want to know the name of the city/village I'm rampaging through!
IceVamp
01-11-2012, 03:08
Aditional cities, using the cities.xml as a template. Checking locations and populations take a while! Phew!
I have listed all capitals at the standard zoom levels, but others are a bit further in. Unless there were loads of space. I think this is around 26 cities. So about 50% more! Yay.

Posting these directly into the cities file will not work however. Dunno why, I'm too tired to investigate, though I suspect there has to be strings for each and every city. Hold on.. yep.
So if you want these in your game NOW, you still have some work to do. :p

<City>
<Name>Oslo</Name>
<Country>Norway</Country>
<Population>611491</Population>
<Location>4335,0681</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Bergen</Name>
<Country>Norway</Country>
<Population>264100</Population>
<Location>4216,0655</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Trondheim</Name>
<Country>Norway</Country>
<Population>176008</Population>
<Location>4331,0602</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Tromsų</Name>
<Country>Norway</Country>
<Population>68839</Population>
<Location>4513,0460</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Hammerfest</Name>
<Country>Norway</Country>
<Population>9261</Population>
<Location>4651,0437</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Alta</Name>
<Country>Norway</Country>
<Population>19103</Population>
<Location>4623,0456</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Gothenburg</Name>
<Country>Sweden</Country>
<Population>519399</Population>
<Location>4356,0720</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Stockholm</Name>
<Country>Sweden</Country>
<Population>861010</Population>
<Location>4491,0683</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Copenhagen</Name>
<Country>Denmark</Country>
<Population>548443</Population>
<Location>4363,0768</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Hamburg</Name>
<Country>Germany</Country>
<Population>1792129</Population>
<Location>4300,0815</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Berlin</Name>
<Country>Germany</Country>
<Population>3479740</Population>
<Location>4394,0815</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Amsterdam</Name>
<Country>Netherlands</Country>
<Population>780152</Population>
<Location>4199,0835</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Warsaw</Name>
<Country>Poland</Country>
<Population>1716855</Population>
<Location>4558,0847</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Prague</Name>
<Country>Czech Republic</Country>
<Population>1290846</Population>
<Location>4406,0897</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Rome</Name>
<Country>Italy</Country>
<Population>2761477</Population>
<Location>4368,1080</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Paris</Name>
<Country>France</Country>
<Population>2211297</Population>
<Location>4131,0922</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Helsinki</Name>
<Country>Finland</Country>
<Population>588941</Population>
<Location>4638,0663</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Tallinn</Name>
<Country>Estonia</Country>
<Population>416144</Population>
<Location>4642,0687</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Dublin</Name>
<Country>Ireland</Country>
<Population>525383</Population>
<Location>3939,0822</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Belfast</Name>
<Country>Northern Ireland</Country>
<Population>267500</Population>
<Location>3951,0795</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Glasgow</Name>
<Country>Scotland</Country>
<Population>592820</Population>
<Location>3981,0766</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Reykjavik</Name>
<Country>Iceland</Country>
<Population>119108</Population>
<Location>3588,0572</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>



North America

<City>
<Name>Washington D.C. </Name>
<Country>United States</Country>
<Population>617996</Population>
<Location>2335,1156</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Miami</Name>
<Country>United States</Country>
<Population>399457</Population>
<Location>2254,1449</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>New Orleans</Name>
<Country>United States</Country>
<Population>343829</Population>
<Location>2044,1364</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Chicago</Name>
<Country>United States</Country>
<Population>2695598</Population>
<Location>2086,1078</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Montreal</Name>
<Country>Canada</Country>
<Population>1620693</Population>
<Location>2412,0999</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Quebec</Name>
<Country>Canada</Country>
<Population>8015000</Population>
<Location>2477,0958</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

Central America

<City>
<Name>Cancun</Name>
<Country>Mexico</Country>
<Population>628306</Population>
<Location>2103,1554</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

Indochina

<City>
<Name>Nagasaki</Name>
<Country>Japan</Country>
<Population>446007</Population>
<Location>7040,1287</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.7</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.8</DetailDistance>
</City>

<City>
<Name>Hong Kong</Name>
<Country>China</Country>
<Population>7061200</Population>
<Location>6697,1515</Location>
<PopupDistance>0.5</PopupDistance>
<DetailDistance>0.7</DetailDistance>
</City>
anotherdevil
01-11-2012, 04:34
are these 1979 population levels? =p
IceVamp
01-11-2012, 14:08
are these 1979 population levels? =p
[Expletive]!!!!
To be fair, it was four in the morning when I was doing this. >.<
Worst part, I even considered the date, because I saw the soviet union be so far west. Damn.
Sathra
01-11-2012, 14:35
My questions is: Does it even matter? And how accurate should the population numbers be? Exact, nearest hundred, nearest thousand?
Gorlom
01-11-2012, 14:43
Obviously it should be accurate down to the newborn babies each ingame month! Someone has alot of research to do! Hop to it!

:p
anotherdevil
01-11-2012, 19:01
I for instance wouldn't care, but I bet that someone out there would...
IceVamp
01-11-2012, 19:47
But where in game do you see the population exactly?
anotherdevil
01-11-2012, 20:17
I'm not sure... Maybe during terror missions? Or maybe if the aliens do enough 'damage' to cities they will eventually blink out...?
IceVamp
01-12-2012, 06:46
Ohh, that would be quite cool actually.
Sathra
01-12-2012, 09:39
You see the population on the geoscape, and I guess it drops while a terror mission is active? (they have casualty counters on the mission, along with a timer).

If you fail a terror mission though, or don't reach it before the timer runs out, the city is nuked and probably disappears from the map.
Chris
01-12-2012, 14:12
The population line is probably not going to be in the final game, I'm afraid (sorry for wasting your research). There's too much information there if it is, and the screen ends up too cluttered.
IceVamp
01-12-2012, 15:35
The population line is probably not going to be in the final game, I'm afraid (sorry for wasting your research). There's too much information there if it is, and the screen ends up too cluttered.
Well, at least I won't have to research it again to find the 1979 populations. I still have to summon the courage to enter strings for all of these, to test them, and I'm not sure how one goes about it.
Gauddlike
01-16-2012, 18:08
To show them on the map you need to add the city name and country name to your strings.xml
For example to get Oslo to show on your geoscape add:

<Row ss:AutoFitHeight="0">
<Cell><Data ss:Type="String">Oslo</Data></Cell>
<Cell><Data ss:Type="String">Oslo</Data></Cell>
</Row>

And:

<Row ss:AutoFitHeight="0">
<Cell><Data ss:Type="String">Norway</Data></Cell>
<Cell><Data ss:Type="String">Norway</Data></Cell>
</Row>

Any more cities you add with the country Norway will now display that part fine, it only needs to be in once no matter how many times it is used.
IceVamp
01-16-2012, 18:11
Thanks. :)
I'll throw this in the wiki.
Gauddlike
01-23-2012, 14:51
Should have thought of adding it to the wiki then linking it...
At least someone did ;)
IceVamp
01-24-2012, 14:36
Should have thought of adding it to the wiki then linking it...
At least someone did ;)
I like writing stuff, in case you hadn't noticed! :P
Gauddlike
01-24-2012, 15:33
No that was a personality trait that hadn't come across... :p
nutbarz
01-29-2012, 03:35
I Found a Zip Code list at work for all the US CIties, and in that list it included Lat and Long for each. http://federalgovernmentzipcodes.us/

Dont know if it will help.

Also, I noticed I could not place a Base in Puerto Rico because it was not showing as land on the large map (no zooming) Just FYI
clever id
02-01-2012, 03:06
Is this the proper place for a geoscape suggestion or just city corrections? I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it and I didn't see it when i looked around but maybe the day/night cycle could be modified to be more like it should be on a flat map (http://www.daylightmap.com/index.php)?
anotherdevil
02-01-2012, 04:15
Yeah Gazz mentioned it in the old forums, but while correct it's not what most people expect to see
Gorlom
02-01-2012, 05:23
I was expecting more of a cone shape then a curve like that tbh. Is the change that quick close to the polar circles?
clever id
02-01-2012, 05:52
Apparently the actually shape varies some over the course of a year. The tilt of the earth contributes to the cycle to and from 24 hours of night/day the north/south poles experience over the year. Here's a better site (http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/earthview.php), scroll down for a more science filled explanation. Change the date to one 6 months from now to see the tilt effect in action.


Back on topic, personally I think it would feel more natural than the straight line and look nicer but then again Chris et al. are the ones designing the game so it's their call. Oh, and I'm not suggesting they worry about the earth wobble, just the curve... Unless they want to do earth wobble ;)
Gorlom
02-01-2012, 07:26
Type in march 21 and Chris version becomes accurate =P
anotherdevil
02-01-2012, 08:01
Type in march 21 and Chris version becomes accurate =P
Yes, secretly, because of mind control, what you don't realise is that the entire game actually takes place over one day =p
Overlord
02-01-2012, 08:31
Check out [xenonautsinstalldir]\assets\earth\lightmap_alternate.png
I guess you could just rename it, I don't know how accurate it is though.
Gorlom
02-01-2012, 17:18
Yes, secretly, because of mind control, what you don't realise is that the entire game actually takes place over one day =p

Silly AD obviously the aliens placed 1 base on the geographic north and one on the geographic south and then untilted the earth in relation to the sun!
Gauddlike
02-01-2012, 17:51
Silly AD obviously the aliens placed 1 base on the geographic north and one on the geographic south and then untilted the earth in relation to the sun!
At least they have it spinning the right way again now.
anotherdevil
02-01-2012, 20:36
ha ha yeah, it would be funny if the dates had gone backwards too =p
dekamme
07-24-2012, 19:34
around x 5819, y 1501 - Indochina: Should be DeLHi, not DeHLi.
flyingdisc
08-12-2012, 13:43
Is this the correct place to mention Islands - or is it just cities?

I know Chris as said previously that the land-sea mask with the current map was a place holder and he intended to return to it before release once the code for the game was all in place, to include contries like the Philipines. There are a number of other Islands that it would be good to include:

Mediteranean: Add Cyprus, Malta
Make Land: Crete
(all would be useful for placing bases with Europe, Middle East, Russia and North Africa overlaps).
lexxparadox
11-11-2012, 12:19
So few coordinates from my area, I eyeballed it against google maps for "accuracy":

X Y
4675 2817 Port Elizabeth, South Africa
4803 2717 Durban, South Africa
4705 2613 Johannesburg, South Africa
4839 2627 Maputo, Mozambique
4720 2716 Masero, Lesotho
4792 2650 Mbabne, Swaziland
4648 2627 Gaborone, Botswana