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armabe
05-04-2012, 13:47
Does anybody else have considerable trouble with Desura?

Every update of Xenonauts, I am forced to uninstall and do a clean install of the game, because, not only does the verification take extreme amounts of time, but the Update DL usually just stops at a random point.

I've tried reinstalling Desura, and the entire folder is whitelisted for my security suite, so nothing should be hindering it. Yet the problem persists. Only full reinstall seems to work.


PS.
Why the hell was the cache for desura taking up 5gb? I only have Xenonauts on desura (it's also detected my Steam Amnesia copy).

Chris
05-04-2012, 14:02
It's odd, because I have no trouble with it whatsoever, but quite a few people seem to find it horrendous...

Amiga4ever
05-04-2012, 14:37
For me its fine. No problem at all....

Aleksi
05-04-2012, 15:19
The update process works fine for me, but i must say that Desura takes quite a long time to prepare the update.

armabe
05-04-2012, 15:35
It's odd, because I have no trouble with it whatsoever, but quite a few people seem to find it horrendous...

Aye. I generally don't mind different distribution services (like some people on the net), but Desura, so far, has been a bad experience.

I suppose there is a link floating around somewhere, but could I ask for a non-desura DL link for the latest build? It seems this time, even the full re-dl decided to stall on me at 97%.

EDIT. Nevermind. Somehow managed to force it through.

The New Romance
05-04-2012, 15:51
I think you need a whole lot of patience. I usually start the update, put my laptop somewhere out of the way and leave the house for whatever business I might have that day. Upon return, it's usually finished.

armabe
05-04-2012, 16:05
I think you need a whole lot of patience. I usually start the update, put my laptop somewhere out of the way and leave the house for whatever business I might have that day. Upon return, it's usually finished.

If only. First time this happened, the update sat at 95% for an entire day with no signs of finishing. Besides, if it takes that long for ~900mb, it's a problem with the client/service, and should be fixed (or avoided :D by consumers).

thothkins
05-04-2012, 19:04
Gaaaaahhhh! Desuraaaaaaa! That pretty much sums up my experience with them. I see that download without desura is sitting at 10, while there's a 10.1 available. So I'll try to use it yet again.

stx
05-04-2012, 19:34
Sometimes during updates it hangs with a strange error, something like (I don't remember the exact error):

There was an error during the validation process (...). Could not get any data from mcf server.

When updating to version 9.5 the update process completed, but the state remained '0% updating' instead of 'Ready'
Closing the client and reopening it did not fix anything. It was possible to launch Xenonauts, so in the end it was no big deal.

After the update to version 10 everything went back to normal.

I'd say that Steam works way better than Desura.

poulwrist
05-04-2012, 22:38
Worked quite fine always. Never had any problems with it. It is of course as horendous an idea as Steam, Origin, and so on, but people seem to want webshop software installed :p

The time it takes to verify files is long, I have it on an SSD so I wonder what it'd be if it weren't ... I figure this is in part due to Xenonauts not using archives for its files and instead has close to 100k small files.

Gauddlike
05-04-2012, 22:43
Still never had an issue with Desura.
It has worked first time every time.
It isn't the fastest bit of software I've used but I wonder how much of that is down to having to scan and handle so many little tiny image and xml files.

thothkins
05-05-2012, 01:53
10.1 actually worked on it :-) Since my last download was without Desura, I had Sonar issues again. They apperaed as me being unable to name a base and the game freezing a couple of times before it made up it's mind to try and quarantine it. But, nothign to do with Desura this time round.

So, I actually got to play the build for a few hours. Yay!

ZZEZ
05-05-2012, 12:16
Desure takes a while to prepare the download or whatever its doing, I am talking about 15 minutes give or take in which its continuously reading from the hard drive, I have a relatively ok computer with Windows 7 64bit - Q6600[2.4ghz quad], 8gigs of ram, ATI 4870 1gig..really no reason it should be acting like that.

FranTorres
05-06-2012, 00:03
I had some issues with download speed and sometimes I had to manually delete the game folder so Desura could download it and install it.

FranTorres
05-07-2012, 11:16
Day has passed and nobody here has a "solution" or some advice please? It had to happens now that I want to try the v10, but theeeeen they releseaed v10.2 so I had to manually delete the folder again and wait DECADES for Desura to download the game.

Neither I have a bad specs comp or a low speed connection (quad core with nice memory and SATA to an SDD and 10 Mps) I need an explanation :_______________________________(

All I want is, to be able to update the game via Desura without any errors or excessive waiting.

Gorlom
05-07-2012, 12:09
FranTorres have you tried to download the zip file instead?

thothkins
05-07-2012, 12:43
I've found that:-

Every stage is going to take a bit of time. If, like me, you've been bouncing between downloading the full thing and using Desura, then it's going to take much longer to verify the files.

- Shutting down and restarting Desura seems to help, rather than perservering with it when it gives error messages.
- Not choosing it's recommended update option seems to help too. I choose the thrid one whatever that was
- Patience as it has a heck of a lot of files to upload, again especially that first time.
- Having plenty of hard disk space also seems to help, as it seems to be a bit precious about such things.

Gauddlike
05-07-2012, 16:51
Have you tried addressing your question to the Desura team?
It sounds like the problem you are having relates directly to Desura rather than to Xenonauts as such.

FranTorres
05-07-2012, 22:58
FranTorres have you tried to download the zip file instead?

My dear Gorlom, never tried that O.o, I might as well give it a try. I just thought it would be easier and or quicker to let the program do the updates. Thanks, I'll try that with the next versions available to download.

Guyver
05-10-2012, 01:32
30 minutes of "validating" and many other checks for what? downloading a tiny hotfix for 10.2...
worst downloading platform ever, and i can't even play other games because of the cpu usage during these checks. -.-'
no chance to bring it over steam when the alpha/beta gets more stable?

Gorlom
05-10-2012, 01:37
Guyver, you could also uninstall it for each update and reinstall or download the zip file.

Gauddlike
05-10-2012, 06:05
Desura was probably not designed with a set up like Xenonauts in mind.
All those tiny image files to be scanned etc.
Even when validating I don't have the sort of problems a lot of people here seem to have.
It takes a while but doesn't cause any slowdown on other programs, it just chugs along quite merrily in the background.

XenoMask
05-10-2012, 14:59
Xenonauts is ONLY game on Desura that has problems with updating for me :P Every other game works fine so please don't blame Desura for it.

Though yeah, I guess its because Xenonauts is rather huge game since most Desura games are obscure indie titles so they don't need much time validating and stuff.

Arturius
05-11-2012, 15:21
I have the same problem as original poster - the game is sometimes bugged after update and a clean install is needed.
But I also confirm what XenoMask said, I have other games on Desura and they work fine.
So I guess it's just what other people have said - the amount of files Xenonauts has is causing the trouble.

rynait
06-10-2012, 20:26
Hello,

did update xenonauts (to v10), checked via option tab showing 4 may 2012. I noted the 10.21 is may 8th. I performed uninstall and install (install had troubles), upon completion says v10 and 4 may 2012. I guess I have to find the information about the zip download option.

R

Hadan
06-14-2012, 12:53
Maybe not 100% the right thread,m but not important enough to start a new one:

Will there be any way to obtain the game with my kickstarter-key other than desura?
To quote The Oatmeal: "I need another account (and Client running in the background) like i need as butthole on my forehead".

Gauddlike
06-14-2012, 17:26
Just don't run Desura in the background.
Use it to download or update Xenonauts and then close it.
Then you can just launch Xeno from the exe without needing to launch Desura first.

Desura will be the first choice for distributing the alpha and beta builds but on release there should be a Steam and DRM free versions available.
You can download the pre release builds without using Desura but they are generally updated later then the Desura version.
The forum has a sticky thread on how to access them.

rs311
06-15-2012, 04:34
Aye. I generally don't mind different distribution services (like some people on the net), but Desura, so far, has been a bad experience.

I suppose there is a link floating around somewhere, but could I ask for a non-desura DL link for the latest build? It seems this time, even the full re-dl decided to stall on me at 97%.

EDIT. Nevermind. Somehow managed to force it through.

I was downloading UFO: Alien Invasion on Desura the other week and same thing happened when the download got to 98% and it just froze for about 5 minutes and then resumed, got to 99% and froze again for about 5 minutes before finishing the download. I think it might be due to the server load at the time, who knows... :S

Hadan
06-15-2012, 10:00
Then you can just launch Xeno from the exe without needing to launch Desura first.
Thanks, thats what i wanted to hear :)

raziel1981
07-06-2012, 16:32
I got a BSOD while desura attempted to install the latest Xenonauts build... generally it seems highly unstable at the moment (the client crashed a few times too)

Absinthetic
07-28-2012, 17:41
I haven't had the game long enough for Desura to apply any updates to it, but boy I sure hope any problems have been ironed out by the time I do get an update- some of these problems sound AWFUL.

Max_Caine
07-28-2012, 17:59
Management of the Desura client is in the hands of Desura... so the more people that write to them and politely (or not so politely) inquire when they are going to do something about it the sooner they do something about it. But hey! Desura does alphafunding and is a big supporter of indie games. I can't think of another big distributor that combines the two. In fact, I can't think of another big distributor that does alphafunding! (outside of sites like kickstarter, but that's a little different).

thothkins
07-28-2012, 23:47
I was trying a few tweaks earlier on. I couldn't get them to appear in the game. Sure enough, my latest build game still used files from a previous build. Even with the same files there for the latest one, it was choosing to nip back for some of them. Odd, and undoubtedly all due to the way I've been updating the game through its development.

IceVamp
08-02-2012, 17:10
Yeah, that's it with Desura. I can't update at all. I get perpetual MCF errors, or Desura hang ups and what not.
Even if Desura helps indie developers, they can take a hike, because they do it horribly. Damn!
Yes, I'm a bit upset.

Laters

Edit:
Also their direct dl servers are effin slow as turd. *curses, a lot of curses*

Vivisector 9999
08-02-2012, 18:26
Yeah, that's it with Desura. I can't update at all. I get perpetual MCF errors, or Desura hang ups and what not.
Even if Desura helps indie developers, they can take a hike, because they do it horribly. Damn!
Yes, I'm a bit upset.

I'm in the same boat here. (If it makes you feel any better.)

This was my first experience with Desura, too. I loathe Steam and was hoping Desura would be better (it wouldn't have to try hard!), but so far it's been its own kind of headache.

thothkins
08-02-2012, 18:47
Not for the first time , I'm getting the same as the above. Two attempts to get the update and then there was a hot fix. 3 goes at that so far without success :( Really puts a downer on the evening as I had squirrelled away an hour to play the new build before other things kick in. double :(

RenegadeOfficer
08-02-2012, 19:07
Pain in ass query - is there any way for those of us with a Desura key to get it on Steam instead?

/ Wishing he'd waited before ordering

iamkyon
08-02-2012, 19:23
Pain in ass query - is there any way for those of us with a Desura key to get it on Steam instead?

/ Wishing he'd waited before ordering

Oh, yes: you'll be able to opt for a Steam key once the game is ready for release. The alpha and beta versions are exclusively distributed through Desura, but testing them out won't restrict your options with regards to the final product.

RenegadeOfficer
08-02-2012, 19:49
Excellent news :D

Corporal Hicks
08-03-2012, 03:52
That's it. I give up. Desura is the worst piece of crap.

I have spent the last four hours trying to download the new version to no avail.

The download always get canceled somehow, always has errors and stops.

Please, upload a zip file containing the game somewhere only the people who purchased the game can access.

I wanna play it, but I can't...

Tahliat
08-03-2012, 06:44
Corporal Hicks I had the exact same problem I managed a workaround by having desura validate the files (The third option when prompted by desura as to how to continue with the installation) it seems a small number of files are missing ~2MB. Hope this works for you.

Corporal Hicks
08-03-2012, 22:39
I tried that too, didn't work... Nothing works. :(

Knox1776
08-04-2012, 17:20
On day three of trying to get the client to download. Hopefully it will work while I leave for the day.

Chris, I sure hope you are expressing our concerns to Desura as well.

EDIT: As an update, the download completed successfully when I returned from the gym. Changelog shows version 13.01.

Seems the problem is fixed, or I just got lucky!

thothkins
08-04-2012, 20:51
I tried that too, didn't work... Nothing works. :(

It did take a couple of goes at option 3 as well, but it does seem to be the most likely. It's blooming frustrating, so I feel your pain there Cpl.

Ogilvy the Astronomer
08-05-2012, 13:00
Am I the only one who hasn't had any trouble at all with Desura? Each update has taken literally minutes to download and install, with no errors. (Although I only came in with Kickstarter, so haven't had as many updates as you guys).

Gauddlike
08-06-2012, 09:15
I have never had any troubles with desura until this last update.
Didn't seem to want to update it at all and now I am only getting an install option so looks like it may have deleted the previous version for me.
Ah well, sure it will work soon.

Lokik
08-06-2012, 17:21
"Nice" to see that I'm not the only one having these problems. Every time I try to install Xenonauts again, it starts downloading but after a while I get some error message saying connection was lost. Now I chose the third option and it's "verifying install". Has been at 40% for ages now. Really want to try out V13. :(

Corporal Hicks
08-07-2012, 01:01
I have tried the 3rd option now I believe 1000 times, always get errors, the program closes and ask me If I want to force a Desura update or restart it.

Gauddlike
08-07-2012, 07:42
It failed for me three times then I uninstalled Desura and xenonauts.
After a clean install it worked perfectly again first time.

Corporal Hicks
08-07-2012, 23:33
Yessss!! After a lot of blood, sweat and tears, It finally installed proppa!!!!!! :cool:

thothkins
08-10-2012, 20:42
Yay Corporal! Now kick some alien butt!

It's a real pain to come onto the forums and find that everyone else is enjoying the build you can't download.

The New Romance
08-13-2012, 16:50
... and now I'm a victim, too. I'd be interested in whether this is Desura's fault or whether Hicks and me and possibly others have strange computers that somehow interfere with Desura. At least I have the hope that it will work out sooner or later.